So my friend who was talking about Privacy and stuff about a minute ago is now using Google and Facebook.

Why?

Weird one O.o

Privacy is about being aware, not about keeping everything to yourselve.

People freakout for using google or Facebook, but are on WhatsApp.. like they forget who owns it.

People also forget google knows you, also does Facebook and amazon, all you have to fo is surf the internet, there are trackers everywhere and the is tech to "connect de dots" even if you block cookies or navigate full incognito.

So, are we paranoid yet?

@mundo03 If you've never really use Google services and other social media + don't have stuff on the Internet, Google doesn't reallly know you I think

@linuxxx that's is what they want you to think.ever seen one of those social media icons to share stuff? Those track you, and like those, they have more trackers around.

And this creeps me a lot!!!

@mundo03 I block as many trackers as possible through my hosts file. Hell, i can't even connect to google!

@linuxxx Use DuckDuckGo?

@aayusharyan Yeah I do haha

@linuxxx google has partners.
We are surrounded and you don't even know what is what.

@mundo03 What about, instead of trying to debunk every fucking thing I say, you come up with some good ideas?

@linuxxx no. 😂
We are not trying to come up with ideas, we are describing reality.

An idea would be to regulate what these companied can do and how, like germany tries to do.

But yeah, not now, it is Saturday man.

@mundo03 I didn't really want to start any flame war but if you just keep debunking my shit, I'm going to call in backup. Sorry.

@linuxxx aw shiet, no man all cool.
I Just wanted to say you are wrong with no consequences. Sorry :(

I talk about privacy all the time. These days however, it's all in my head. Simple reasons: No one gives a shit and shits on you if you mention it. And let's be honest, it's fucking hard to impossible to keep yourself private. Reaching to Google Search, to YouTube, to CAPTCHA. Yup, we are all slaves to GooglDoS.

@mundo03 That was rather a joke :P. But yeah messaging from a phone that cant connect to Google and about a million other trackers :)

@linuxxx funfact: even if you personally avoid all internet exposure, Facebook still knows about you from second-hand information. Like your friends and family that mention you on WhatsApp or facebook, that in itself is enough to collect data on you.

We live in the darkest timeline

@Atlas117 Yup true. That doesn't mean one shouldn't try though

@linuxxx there are actually two ways of suppressing information. One is to completely suppress it, the other is to overload it with fluff. The issue is that the former has glaring gaps in data whereas latter blends into the crowd. It's a lot easier to look up null values than erroneous values since for the latter you first need a system to distinguish between valid data and invalid data.

We can't win the fight of information extraction, we can only control what information will inevitably be fed into the machine. So why not throw them a hollow bone?

@Atlas117 Define a hollow bone?

@linuxxx As he said, fill it with a bunch of unnecessary information

@linuxxx the data hounds will not let go until you give them what they want, they see a gap in data and they'll strive to fill it in. After all, to make predictions and forecasting you need data points and the more data points you have the more accurate predictions you can make.

When I use the analogy of a hollow bone then what I mean is to fill them with useless data. Majority of data systems struggle with data verification and if there's no real way to distinguish between valid and invalid data, then it will never prop up. And, from experience, too much invalid data and not enough fleshy data could render the entire data set useless.

Actively suppressing information causes this data vacuum and any data system will do it's best to fill the vacuum to the best of it's extent. So one way to combat is to resist the pull, the other is to fill it with fluff data. That is essentially the basic principle of misdirection.

In this case the hollow bone looks and acts like the data requested but it's erroneous and doesn't reveal anything about you.

One of my favourite examples of this application is to provide you name as the websites name to any service you sign up to with email to see who exactly is selling data to whom

@linuxxx oh you think wrong on that.

@AleCx04 on what?

@linuxxx about google not knowing about us if we do not use their services, those basterds are everywhere man.

@AleCx04 Yeah, I agree mate. Who knows may be the third party service we are using is having their services integrated.

@AleCx04 I don't think they know nothing but if you try hard you can minimalize it to a very low level I think