Me: I'm really underpaid and you know that. You gotta do something about it.

My Manager: It's on my radar. It's complex. Things like these never move quickly.

*Few weeks later*
My Manager: Hey what's the status on that new POC?

Me: It's on my radar. It's complex. Things like these never move quickly.

*Radio silence in the room*

Sounds like my supervisor. He was all talk but no action. Needles to say I left the job after 4 months.

I'll never understand how a raise could be "complex" or "take time." Bitch, just talk to accounting and get it done. But wait! It's not your boss's decision, but their boss's? Wow! They could just walk over and talk to them. So difficult.

All this crap is just their way of saying "the princess is in another castle. Get back to work and ask again next level. Also, try not to die. We're watching you."

😞

Assholes.

*Savagery intensifies*

dominance.assert();

That's awesome,
Next day
YourManager : It's hard to find a new job, right.

Manager: Raise is not related to your performance.
Never figured what raise is related to, its like black magic.

@squirvel next is to pee on his desk

@Viraj it's not at all hard to find a new job. Question should be, what you wanna do and learn in your new job!!

@Ashkin The best part is, people above don't have a clue on who is working on what kind of stuff! 😂 And this is common in all organisations.

@sbaitmangalkar yes, But that is the reality. They think we don't have a choise, actually we all have.

Bloody complex... it's simple, transfer it into my bank, give it to me in cold hard cash or fuck it, I'll even take cryptocurrency. Simple enough for you?

Ask for a definite timeline, and determine an acceptable range for the increase amount. If your boss still hems and haws, and gives you non-specific answers, then it isn't going to happen.

Use that information however you want.

savage af

It's not like people are looking for developers or anything.

That's why a common thing is to get job offer and then talk to your manager about it.

"See, they would pay me X. Yet I like it here and it would be great if you could match their offer." (You could also name a new figure below the new offer as long as the figure stays within want you want to earn.)

@Ashkin best analogy ever!

@kopernikus. That's tactic is good but often it's super disrespectful to the other company and can ruin your reputation in the future with them or people they work with . I'd be careful of that tactic . Esp since the boss may make all these promises to keep you then look for someone to replace you in the meantime

@thinkbonobo

That's true. If you shop an offer to your current employer, you are poisoning the waters and demonstrating that you have no loyalty to them (which I find unfairly ironic, because no employer ever has any loyalty to you, and nobody ever expects them to).

If you threaten to leave, you need to be prepared to actually do it.

Best move I've ever seen is a sysadmin in my old place: whenever he wanted a raise he'd go and get a job offer at that price, drop it on his manager's desk and watch them scurry...

It's awesome how quickly people will move in that situation.

@irene we are in medeival!

@irene

It's loyalty that keeps most employable people from leaving jobs they don't like.

@irene Yes, I've seen many people who'll be worried when it comes to switching roles.