@burnout-coder You are burnt out already.

Between the lines you show every symptom of an early burn out/depression. A lot of times it's a mix.

Are you maybe sleeping more or taking random naps? Lost interest in hobbies you liked before?

Maybe I'm wrong but please, take some time off and if you can, get help. If you continue like this, things will get worse. Even if you only do the stuff absolutely necessary at work, your mental state will not get better.

I've been there. Quit. Now.

@jurion not right now but in general, I‘d really love to!
One of the few countries I consider moving to weather/people wise.

@dkisler Well, they weren‘t. It changed. „Growing pains“.
That can happen everywhere.

You can‘t make a company big as a dev if the product sucks but in my case it didn‘t, it was great.
That‘s nothing I did, so not my achievement. But as a dev you can make the difference.

You optimize everything, like I did. Optimize code, adwords, pagespeed, monitor bounce rates etc., minimize cancellations, keep customers -> company earns money, a lot.

Then more managers are needed. That‘s reasonable. But a lot of times the vicious cycle begins then. Fights for positions, responsibilities and voila, there you go.

Nothing unusual. Not even surprising. And not deadly for company. I will be replaced and the company will survive. Until the next „me“ quits and the next one joins.
That‘s just how it works :)

@jurion Sorry late reply but no thanks. I decide where I work, as arrogant as it may sound.

During my holidays I wrote some POCs again(exploits) and had pretty interesting conversations.

If nothing changes I will be an internal pentester from 2020 onwards. If everything works you can see me at blackhat and pwn2own next year.
My future employer is there on a regular basis. I‘m excited :)

@alexbrooklyn He didn‘t get the job and we told him what we would like to have gotten as solution but he only complained and told us it works so it‘s fine.

We took our time with him and in the end we were on the same page. So good outcome I guess. He will do better next time and I still have his contact. Never give up on people who are willing to learn :) I know, doesn‘t fit your case but still..

I would like to say that this is something you only experience once in your live but no..
Just the other day I interviewed somebody(frontend), wasn‘t really convinced and gave him a simple task as homework.

He had to expand a simple test project and he basically did the same thing.
He got the project(all set up) and just generated a non minified css(dev) and modified that file instead of.. you know the story.

@legacy07 I mean, hr is useful for the first step of the process. Sort out totally unqualified applications etc. but in the last interview somebody with actual knowledge in the respective field should be present.

Unfortunately they don’t really understand that here and just have managers in interviews most of the time.

@Sunsette Thanks, I’m totally done with that/them. Especially that “we accomplished that as a team” when in reality the rest is not really contributing anything useful.

In the end most of it comes down to hiring the right people.
One example: For our HR the term junior means knowing absolutely nothing, so for them hiring someone with zero knowledge is okay. I tried to explain multiple times that being a junior and not having any IT knowledge at all is something different but well..I guess there are also a lot of “juniors” in our HR department ;)

@matste of course he doesn’t owe me anything but normally, especially if you hire a lot of juniors, you should be interested in keeping the person training them. It’s that simple. But that’s nothing I have to care about :)

I’m already thinking about the next job. Just not sure yet what I want to do next, maybe something more security related this time so my OSCP cert is actually useful.

@HisAxelency yeah. Ranting now and then enjoying the vacation ;) Just like 3 more months after vacation(finding a new job in the meantime) and then taking the rest of my vacation days until next year.

@rutee07 Tired is not the right word here anymore. I would like to throw them out of the window or let them ride the one way elevator(balcony, top floor) sometimes. Some of them are just so fkn stupid.. I’m giving up ;)

To quote: Everybody has a testing environment. Some people are lucky enough enough to have a totally separate environment to run production in.

@legacy07 yeah but 8 juniors and 1 senior? That’s no mix.

@legacy07 best part is: They just hired another 21 year old “full stack” yesterday. They didn’t ask me, of course.
They hired him because he is in Mensa(club for people with high IQ). The reasoning was: High IQ -> good dev. No questions asked.

@legacy07 the company is 2.5 years old so.. ;)
It was good there for exactly one year. It was perfect. In june we got a new head of IT and well.. The above happened. He hired a lot of know it all juniors.
And he fired the second senior. It‘s all about the numbers.

@HisAxelency You‘re totally right and I know that.

I mean, just now(first day of my 3 week vacation today) I get slack notifications from jira and QA is creating bug tickets which are no bugs. They don‘t even understand the application after 6 months.

Normally I would tell them now: Hey, that‘s not a bug. The app works like this. But I stopped caring. So it‘s time to move on.

Never, ever, I can’t stress this enough, talk bad about the code you have to work on.
As you said, everybody has been on both sides. The client might still like the old dev.
What do you get if you tell them the old code sucks which worked for years? Not the job, in many cases.

Tell them you need to refactor it because newer versions, new requirements, new framework, what ever.

Be diplomatic and everybody is happy ;)

@rutee07 I’ll be right next to you waiting for them with a baseball bat. Or with a dictionary to punch some knowledge into their heads. If you can say it like this in english ;)

@HisAxelency I’m already/still doing freelance work. A weekend of work sometimes is more than my salary.

The company is a charity company. I’m actually there to do something good. It’s not really about the money. The safe money is good for my family, not going to lie.

But being this ignorant.. Sometimes I just don’t know what to say because I can’t believe people can be like this.(This dumb)

Same here currently. My junior just rushed everything and went on vacation. Every damn ticket coming back from QA because not working at all or even breaking current stuff.

She won‘t have a nice first day next week. I‘m not even pissed that I have to do the work but because I know she could do better.

@R1100 i actually pepare pentest amis(amazon machine images) and deploy them for our guys to test their skills.

Have you tried hackthebox.eu? If its just for the challenge. I don‘t know bug bounties for stuff like that though since linux is open source ;)

But well, that‘s also part of the pentester job. It‘s not just web app security.

@halfflat I mean, I don‘t go too hard on candidates not knowing that but some of those typical interview questions are normal.
Like 5 minutes in I always ask something practical.

I also give assignments to do at home to people who are just too nervous since I don‘t only want extroverts in my team.
A good mix is the best.

You mean something like penetration tester? That’s a normal job.

Ask about SOLID and dependency injection. Shows at least a little bit if the possible new dev knows some basic principles.

@ThatDannyBoy we chose gatsby over hugo for our new project but I like both :)

@Fast-Nop Amen. Go static with a Cms? Also possible. See netlify for example.

@AleCx04 I totally got you wrong then. Maybe it was because of the previous rant I read which was written by him.

I totally over-interpreted your post, sorry.

@AleCx04 yeah and your advice is to tell him fucking up is a good thing?

When I was 19 I got drunk and lost all my stuff more than once. So you think this is something I should tell my children to do? No, I will tell them what an idiot I was and how I fucked up. I won‘t tell them to not drink, I will tell them to try and just not be the idiot I was.

Op here is trying and doing pretty good actually. So get off your high horse and get down to us who actually fail, fail again and stand up.

@jschmold exactly. He is young but he has been fired. Nothing bad about this. Been there done that.

My juniors don‘t listen to me most of the time but you OP are listening and know a lot already.
That‘s why I said: See you on one of the next big conferences, I know we will.

My guess is the senior who should have warned/instructed you was actually the one who messed up in this case.

@R1100 Huh? Let me show you that db with 4 million users and md5 as password i got a month ago.

Also: into outfile mysql - google it