@Codex404 my point is that your credibility and/or subsequent hypocrisy shouldnt matter as it is still bad nonetheless.. it shouldnt invalidate your claim on the ground of you being a bad baker yourself..

@Codex404 point agreed.. the choices baker will have will still be pretty same though, doesnt it? He can change his recipe or not, regardless of your opinion of it, right?

@Codex404 i get the point..

Telling the baker his cake was bad while you yourself was as much a bad baker or worse as he was wont make make your cake any better or worse, wont it?

@Codex404 if i was told that my code was fucking ugly, it can only get better from there.. thats how i turn it into something constructive.. let them waste their energy berating my code, the grind shall live on..

@Codex404 i apologize for that and i try not to insult you any further.. it just wasnt my intent, thats all..

I think its a case of "the pot calling the kettle block" (typo intended) for me and it was received as though i meant "the black pot calling the kettle black".. my issue was for the times it was misused and had its semantics differently and was responded to as though i have no credibility to point out such because i made such mistakes myself (which was fine, but still wrong IMO).. missed the point i was trying to make

@Codex404 you as the potential receiver of it could opt to, even if the intent is to actually insult you.. you dont have to, of course.. you can still feel insulted by an actual insult like a normal human being.. i am just of the persuation that you guys here are a notch better..

@mazabin then thats perfectly fine.. xD

But to suggest that i should not criticize coz im wrong myself, that, i cant seem to understand..

@mazabin i agree.. but thats another conversation born out of this rant: i make the same mistakes of which i get irked out by.. am i hypocritical in doing so? Maybe.. does the validity of my statement diminish? The community suggests so, and i find that hard to understand.. i personally dont care of hypocrisy in this forum coz its only a function of approval in that people generally find it hard to trust hypocrites.. i dont ask for approval (hence dont care for being a hypocrite in this forum) coz its not devConvince, its devRant.. by the logic of this community, only experts can ever talk critically about anything, rendering the very essence and core of social media moot

@mazabin instead of "mark's phone", the translation goes to "phone of mark".. see my point? Its still english, still syntantically correct, but of a different form.. a form in which apostrophes, in its possesive use case, is rendered moot

@mazabin again, i translate from a language that when translated to english renders apostrophes moot.. thats why i said i dont see the use in it.. it wasnt intended as a general statement

@Codex404 it wasnt just for myself.. instead, i include myself in its recipients..

Anyway, bottomline: i get annoyed by typos.. mine or otherwise.. its pretty clear i meant the misspelling of words, not by misuse brought by apostrophes.. "your welcome" haunts me, "youre welcome" not as much..

"your code is fucking ugly" can be its own constructive criticism depending on reception.. you can opt to not take insult in it, you are an adult and i am on a phone..

@Codex404 again, i did not complain.. it is meant to be spoken from a position of which i include myself as its recipient as i too make such mistakes.. doesnt make it wrong for me to say it irks me out..

I see the point of it being offensive if looked at at a certain way (me shouting to all of you that typos are evil while i do make ones myself).. but i believe ive stressed it enough that that was not the case

@VikiMaster2 i noticed.. i hope its evident that im not immune to it and it irks me out.. yet, somehow, i cant rant about it? The post was meant to be from an introspective position.. that was missed by a lot, it seems

@irene only if its a complaint

I guess english has evolved to, by default, easily miscontsrued to have an offensive tone..

@DataJockey i dont intend to insult.. i hope to make that perfectly clear.. it is my intent to spew what irks me out..

I make mistakes as much as the next guy.. and i agree, who should give a shit if the point was understood? I agree with this completely.. is it at all possible to see the rant as it is: a rant? Coz thats all it is.. not an insult nor a complaint

@irene i apologize then.. never intended for it to be an insult and seeing as it did, i apologize..

@qwerty77asdf I never said i was excused.. as you see, its still is a perfectly coherent and valid english statement.. i dont use english as a primary mode of daily communication either.. so when i do use it, i translate.. and when i translate, it seems to lack the need for apostrophes in its possesive properties..

@irene why the need to feel insulted? I see us as a community.. and if felt the need for it, express the needs for self improvement..

Is there no place for introspection here?

@qwerty77asdf not a native english speaker.. the translations for our language make use of that syntax instead of the apostrophes.. i apologize for the confusion but its not outdated, just different

@GMR516 its a rant, not a complaint..

@irene i see.. i merely ranted coz im on devrant.. it seems to be a requirement for somebody to not be vulnerable of things they would rant about.. i dont care of credibility coz its a rant, i dont intend to convince others of its legitimacy.. hence, being hypocritical is of no value..

For what its worth, i may own a number of PhD's or a hobo with a phone.. it doesnt matter (at least it doesnt have to), coz its a rant.. i dont have to be immune to it

@Codex404 im not a spelling master.. simply said it irked me out

@Codex404 never said you didnt know the difference.. i believe you and the points you made.. why the hostility?

@qwerty77asdf fair point.. and by that remark, i simply meant that in my usage of apostrophes.. for example, instead of "mark's phone", i use "phone of mark".. for caps, that me being lax i guess.. i hope i cleared that one out..

And please, if i may ask.. does ranting about something and making that same mistake make me seem less credible or even hypocritical? Im not immune to it, merely stating what irks me.. i get irked out by my own doing.. its possible

@qwerty77asdf i think caps and apostrophes dont matter much as the meaning never change (unless if its an acronym for caps, and in some rare cases for apostrophes).. its the actual wrongness in the spelling of words that grinds my gears.. btw, what are people doing with the time they save on not spellchecking anyway?

@VikiMaster2 your and youre are two different things with its own meaning understood with or without apostrophe's.. i dont see a point in apostrophe's actually.. haha

@VikiMaster2 thanks.. long time lurker actually