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- he said while browsing a community pretty much dedicated to jokes and sarcasm.
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@Lemoncake Of course it is machine-made, but I would say that a machine with a printer that prints pictures of trees is a tool, just as a brush is a tool for a painter. A more accurate comparison would be if the brush itself learned over time what the painter painted, and what other people seemed to enjoy most (based on sales, the amount of time people are looking at the pieces etc.), and started painting paintings people enjoyed without anyone telling it how to do – then I don’t think it’s as dismissible as just saying “it’s a machine”.
But that’s of course depending on how we define creativity. -
And also: @freakko, are we really creating something new when we create things? Isn’t pretty much everything based on earlier creations, and thusly mimicking in a way? If I compose a song, it will surely be influenced by songs I’ve heard, harmonies, combination of instruments and so forth. And if I make a logo, I will probably use fonts other have created and so on. I’m just not sure that a well-developed AI wouldn’t be able to do the same after learning.
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@Lemoncake But isn’t it creativity? I mean it would probably count as creativity if I were to edit photos from Street View in the same manner, and I would do it based on my knowledge and experience, which in turn comes from other people’s creations before me. Couldn’t one argue that the AI and I are doing the same? Surely the AI would start with a man-made algorithm, but if it can learn from what others find aesthetically pleasant, isn’t that then exactly how I would do it? I.e. as a kid learn “why” things are aesthetically, and then – based on trial and error, and experience – be able to judge what others probably would perceive as “good” and “bad” (like in art). Why wouldn’t it be the same for an AI?
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@shivayl surely AI will be able to create pretty much everything we can create, even art. I mean music is probably "easy" to mathematically create for a computer who can analyze billions and billions of song and analyze what seems to be what we like. Paintings, why not? I mean if an AI has access to pretty much all information in the world, then the world is its oyster. I'll honestly believe that within 20 years we have AI and interaction with it like with TARS and CASE in Interstellar. With humor and everything.
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Wait, how do we know that @lemoncake isn't some kind of AI just trying to play down everything for the upcoming overtake?