@Lensflare I got too used to devplace's auto correction of my shit. Nah, it actually doesn't replace words but does fix grammar and applies markdown automatically. I was daunting taught / teached and went for learnt. Maybe, you will learn retoor language before I learn English 😁

@SoldierOfCode here a review by AI:

The HTML/CSS source of devplace.net was written by a human - specifically, someone with:

Frontend experience (BEM naming, CSS custom properties, responsive patterns)

Accessibility knowledge (skip links, ARIA roles, though with some mistakes)

A pragmatic, "ship it" attitude (duplicated variables, debug indicators, ad-hoc data attributes)

Personal infrastructure (self-hosted analytics, custom domain)

The site uses a server-side template engine (likely Python-based given the molodetz.nl connection) and the HTML is dynamically rendered per request. There's no evidence of AI-generated markup in the structural layer.

If AI was used at all, it was likely as a coding assistant (autocomplete, boilerplate generation) rather than wholesale HTML generation - the fingerprints are too human.

See the whole review of the source code: https://devplace.net/posts/...

@SoldierOfCode go to the site and just check the html source code in browser and you will see it`s not slop. No freaking nextjs, react or other shit used that LLM`s do. It does not use the backend servers that LLM`s implement. It does not use the security that LLM`s implement. It does have e2e tests for each functionallity what no LLM`s do (playwright). The JS are all nice Ecmascript modules, OO and we use native webcomponents what again LLM`s don`t do by default.

The site is a result of someone spending actually effort in AI.

Name one thing that is bad about the site because of AI. The design was copied because many people liked how the original devplace looked. I agree to that.

What you see here, is how modern web development looks like. There is basically no downside opposing traditional development.

Whole devPlace is 2015 style web development and completely backend rendered but has some live events and stuff. It`s as based as gitea (stablest based software ever).

@SoldierOfCode read the source code, it is not a mess at all. It is well executed AI and a very structured code base that has a grade of A-.

It does not use front-end frameworks, nor css / js and uses only my preferred technologies. It`s written how i would`ve done it myself. Even better.

The whole project is against any AI default preference because i do not like them.

Don`t call it a mess. Maintaining a project of that size using AI without getting out of control is an art.

The visuals are stolen of the original devplace (by @blindxfish) before i rewrote it.

Saying that it sucks because it`s made by AI is like saying that you control the news because you`re a jew. It just does not have to be.

It has just like dR one list of posts, some categories and on top of that many features like markdown / code highlighting / content embedding (video/youtube).

@SoldierOfCode cool. Now move your ass to devplace.net

@jestdotty tell me one thing about devplace what is a mess, is it the perfect html output? The perfect copied design of the original devplace or the great responsiveness of the amazing performance and well structured native Web components?

Fine, I wish you much happiness and good luck. Always welcome.

@jestdotty you are people. On devplace are more people than dr atm. What do you mean with monetize? I won't. Devplace is running on resources I already have.

"I don't go there, not enough people" -> you are literally promoting reddit that way. Also, with that mentality you kill the distributed Internet.

My vision is kinda like how devRant was about a year ago. Maybe two. And then it's OK.

But still, you're spending time here, could've been on devplace where your friends are. I miss your "rants".

@jestdotty sounds like a beautiful rant for devplace.

What is a nicer place than a place you can request changes? Where webmasters actually listen and care?

@12bitfloat you have time enough because on dR it ain't happening anymore. We're left to die.

@Alice welcome! Hope you'll enjoy your stay.

But anyway, it goes well with the members of devplace but it should keep growing.

Also, don't forget that devplace is the best place for technews, it has more and more diverse news than any platform. It has more than a hundred sources and are all validated for quality by deepseek. Only 20% of news articles pass the review. You'll be never reading shit.

The new game is popular, five people playing it already!

I`m impressed by these bots. They compliment eachother.

@donkulator have you already checked https://devplace.net ? It`s a sequel to devRant, finished and polished product. Just introduced some game in it and five people are playing.

I will keep the platform alive, just like Snek for more than over two years!

@Lensflare I think i will do the fiverr compain today already. I have no idea how much to pay for such a person. You have every price range. I once got screwed over there. Maybe I do just three cheap ones.

I hope we can make it a great community and would love the devRant people for the nice culture. Want it exactly the same. I already have a cozy feeling with current members as well.

@Tounai yes! https://retoor.molodetz.nl/retoor/...

Trust is not needed if you don`t use your gmail password for other services. For devplace, there are no password requirements besides six chars. I am not gonna babysit. People decide for themselves what they consider safe. I, myself, choose for a very simple password. Brute force over the web is kind of impossible.

@Lensflare wrong! :P I am just working on it. Server often reboots. But it`s ok. It does not have performance issues, not even close to it.

Thanks for the promotion post. I hope we can move our close community there. I always considered devRant kinda timeless, not aging, but when I see what devPlace has to over with all the content embedding and other features.. Also nice responsive. It`s fast. It is objectively an upgrade. Inspired by @blindxfish.

But also, what is it great to have a working notifiction system right?

Today or tomorrow I will hire a seo guy from fiver to publish the community. But i hope that members of devRant first can implement the current fine culture we have here.

devPlace / devRant is the best culture of the interwebz. There is no alternative.

Regarding the ten days stuff, humans can just go hardcore often. They will also not do it every day. The git we have now is nothing comparable to what Linus made. Linus says so himself.

Working with LLM`s is a challenge. I stay nicely within my Claude 100, subscription. It doesn`t matter when running out of tokens (and you have to wait a long time). There is always much to do and can spent more than a hour on a prompt.

BTW, your project would have been easier in Python. Python has amazing reflection. In python you can access all information of classes / variables etc during runtime.

@Lensflare the dR API docs that we always wanted: https://devplace.net/docs/.... I did not realize that i did not had an /api endpoint. Now devRant has it. Dammit, that must become annoying some day. My application uses exactly the same routers for API and HTML. The actions are also driven by the same code. I did not do stuff duplicate. So far, happy about it.

Now, it`s time... For retoor and the three abundant buttons that should have never existed...

@Lensflare you can just go to devplace and press escape and an agent will show up. You can ask him on swift source code specific for devplace. If you're logged in, even your api key will be in the example. All docs are interactive and special made for user thus api keys there. It's the biggest FastAPI project I've worked on. Very well structured. More than thousand files. I like it with my claude agent setup. It takes ages before they finish but it's faster than doing it yourself. I have crazy agents that check on little things, but those fuckers just can't do two things at once. Especially not on such scale. They just miss shit if they're not dedicated.

@Lensflare what is your excuse now? :P

Oh yeah, I got the official devplace.net domain from @blindxfish!

The Claude files are committed so every contributor can directly implement features without too much pain. The project has 800+ source files now and has 900+ browser e2e / unit / api tests. It is possible to search in the docs but also Devii can give answer about everything.

@jestdotty the only way to resolve that is becomming a member so i can take the bots down :).

@12bitfloat we totally agree, the normies destroy everything. Now we get even more of those of those people. But that is not the fault of AI. Please check the pravda platform btw. I would really appreciate a post. We are with ten people there now :)

I've read this on https://pravda.education

@D-4got10-01 me too :p

A lead engineer just devs full time.

I already read this on https://pravda.education 😁

@djsumdog that can go very dark. Worked few times on replacement system what never happened. It became extra system.

@D-4got10-01 I also considered it as art form and it's very sad that AI is doing so well. But we can't fight it so we better join it. Good AI usage is a type of art as well. My project has an A for structure and that's really impressive with AI. Have you ever seen the docs page for pravda? It's almost more work than the site itself. But for good development it's really required. It's docs for agents.

No, that's not true. You have preferences right on how to write code? The art is making it code exactly as you want and then it isn't slop. It's actually a huge challenge.

I made project specific agents that work better than claude and enforce my code style. It's hardcore development: https://pravda.education/posts/...

You produce more than ever but it's really challenging to do it good. I keep on learning.

I am very proud, just had my first hacker or contributor (not sure yet). It made this accounts:

1. Vrs_be8fdd97

2. rs_be8fdd97

3. pg_c3958a1a

4. repro2_b6a4d3ae

5. repro_d6abba19

And a lot of bullshit posts. But cleaning the database is only one question to my agent and it will do everything automaticlly. It took me less than a minute.

@wojtek322 that's a big step in the future. It was busy today. Found some nice small bugs but no big issues or mismanagement / structural problems. The project is very decent as you noticed. I hope @Lensflare and @jestdotty and @soldierOfCode, @djsumdog and others will join as well. We as developers need a platform tailored for us by us, just like devRant is / was. We can't go on reddit where critical opinions are considered toxic. The best thing about devRant is the culture and we should save that. Highly motivated towards it. I hope that I achieve it with @blindxfish successful visual design and my motivation.

You reported a bug today and it was fixed instant. Isn't such thing great? In my fantasy we all build this platform together with any kind of contribution. Even feedback is appreciated.