No Fucking way am i gonna work 40 more years for $8.125 an hour. Fuck off. Thats $624,000 EARNED OVER MY ENTIRE LIFETIME

Literally everyone in this corporate industry can get fucked. I have to escape this trashhole rat race. No other option for me

@aviophille give me eu passport or im locked here like a slave forever

@aviophille my fucking garbage fiat car costed 3000 euros. Im not gonna pay for shit that i can buy a car with

You make $8.125 an hour? you lucky son of a bitch.

@aviophille every time i made a choice to invest my money i always ended up losing it soon or on the long run

@UberSalt i need to work 2 months to be able to afford to buy 1 iphone, and thats under the condition that i dont spend a penny for 2 months

I need to work 3 months to buy a 12 year old junk fiat car, under the condition that i dont spend a penny

How do i not spend a penny and still live? My bills are 900$ a month what do i do with $400 leftover (if im lucky) each month?

With a $400 a month leftover it will take me 4-5 months to buy an iphone, and 10 months to buy a junk car

By working such a difficult backend & DevOps job (2 in 1 job)?

Not to mention how am i ever supposed to buy an apartment? Not to mention a house? Or even afford to travel to vacation? Not to mention other essential life stuff such as family

That in inhumane. That is disgusting. That is humiliating. That is degrading. Me getting paid 1300$ a month while the boss probably profits 30,000$ a month from me.

As soon as my 3 month contract expires i will demand at least $16.25 an hour or i quit.

@b2plane I make much less than 1300$ a month, wanna do like the movie faceoff?

@aviophille Then you should pay for my eu passport

@UberSalt how much u get paid

@aviophille Just because you earn slave wage does not mean things are cheap. plus there's "official" bank rates for foreign currency and there's the true "black market" rates. I earn around 690$ if you convert my salary to the official rate, true rate though....a measily 382$ because there's no other way to buy USD.

Home prices vary, on average if you want a proper home in a decent location it's no less than 40-48k USD

Anyways enough with this shit, you either get me a passport or pay for my Bulgarian gypsy.

@UberSalt i got paid $600 a month back in 2021 as a backend java job (+ had to work devops + testing)

@UberSalt bro how is it possible that bulgaria is in eu and still worse than serbia who is not in eu and under sancations cause we support russian wars

@b2plane Lol ur from Serbia? u can easily find a job in Germany or any other european country, you can go to any eu country visa free for 3 months, check your priviledge damn it!

@b2plane My goddamn parents worked at airline company and did not think about giving birth to me in the US or a goddamn European country, have been paying for their mistake ever since, fuck this shit.

@aviophille he can watch our kids for € 9,- per hour

"Give me an EU passport or I'll be a slave for life" -> "No, I won't spend 3k on a passport because that's worth a car I'm unsatisfied about"

Shoot again son, it's retarted

@UberSalt no i fucking cant. I literally got rejected for a 2.5k/month job from poland because their client doesnt want to hire anyone without a visa/eu citizenship or however that fuckery works. Serbia is not in nato so we are restricted across the entire europe. Shithole trash country

@UberSalt my parents aggressively spent all of the fortune they had, 5 cars, 5000$/night/person luxury hotels back in 90s. Now they're broke and jobless borrowing money to survive from grandparents like LOSERS. And now i have to pay their low iq consequences by working $8.125 an hour till i die. Id rathsr fucking die. This life is MEANINGLESS and VALUELESS to me

wait you are doing a BE and DevOps job but still getting this low pay? Damn. Something is wrong with your decisions

@spantheslayer its not my fucking decisions its the BULLSHIT country that i live in! You have to work twice as harder to just get a job here! Only the rich people thrive.

Serbia is a piece of garbage country. A country where AVERAGE salary is 300-400$ a month.

You need a computer science degree to have the PRIVILEGE of earning more than $500 a month

I earned $600 a month in 2021 as a backend java engineer, devops, quality assurance tester 3 roles in 1.

$600 A month is considered as ABOVE AVERAGE SALARY in serbia

Today i earn 1300$ a month. I am now in 3% of TOP EARNERS in serbia. 1% of earners earn 2500$ a month in serbia, but those are only people 45+ years old

Serbia. A country where an average car on the street is a fucking PORSCHE. Some drive lambos ferraris and g-wagons. Few drive brabus

How is that Fcking possible for such salaries? PRECISELY because we are paid like slaves and overworked. Thats how they buy those cars

Serbia--THE MOST CORRUPTED COUNTRY OF EUROPE

Want the big secret to getting paid a lot?

Here it is:

Become indispensable.

There's several ways to do this... none of which are taught in schools. Why? Because if they were taught in schools, it'd negate the whole premise, as thered be a wider selection of people with those abilities... so you'd be dispensible.

- ~15yrs ago (before things like UI design were actual career paths) my plan was to make the GUIs, as most devs then were shit at that since they tended to lack basic social skills or a frame of ref. But I already was fluent in 3 languages and learning another 2. GUIs and do 4+ translations. I'd cost less than the typical method (2-4 independent translators plus the GUI costs) but be able to make much more, considering usability and lack of oversight/sourcing/training people. No logical reason to not use me... and way harder to consider pissing me off.

-inventing something that requires you to exist

- anything that fills a void and takes highly specialised skills.

Took me 8 years in the industry to make good money :( and I'm still not rich...

@Hazarth exactly so whats ur conclusion? Was it worth it?

@b2plane well if I gave up, I wouldnt get as far as I did and would probably be working a different job for less. I don't regret anything I did, Im just annoyed that It's never really enough... But maybe Im just growing greedy

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@kiki laughed so hard about your comment and my ribs are bruised 🤣 Oeeeh, this hurts 🤣

@Hazarth how much u earn and ill tell u if ur greedy

@retoor ur ribs are bruised from aggressive fking doggystyle

@b2plane you making it sound like it's a bad thing...

@retoor its a great thing

@b2plane the best, btw. @aviophille lies. It wasn't Crack. It was amphetamine

@Hazarth about 37k/y after taxes, before paying for mortgage or food

@Hazarth thats absolutely atrocious! Goddamn bro 8 years of your life gone just for a privilege of earning 3k a month? What country

@b2plane Slovakia. I make twice what a programmer makes here on average. Here 3k a month is a ton of money compared to most people. So the 8 years of my life was well worth it. Especially since Im working a job I enjoy :)

@b2plane pravac njemacka, nema tu kruha prijatelju moj

@myss pa nema jbg kad je srbija govno zemlja apsolutno se ne ponosim kad strancima kazem da sam srbin nego me je sramota. Blamiram se a nisam kriv sto sam rodjen ovde

I am also underpaid and can't even buy a house. Rental is already an issue here, and the rent I am currently paying is half my salary.

Only have a few hundred euros left for myself with all the crap I am paying.

@b2plane isto sranje s menom i Hrvatskom. Nema nista od nacionalizma, korijena, ponosa i tih gluposti. Jednostavno bacis kocku i ides tamo gdje ce ti biti bolje u zivotu bez obzira sto mozda nije tvoje.

Najveca laz koju nam plasiraju kolektivno na prostoru bivse juge je ta da nema posla niti novca. Cinjenica je ta da je ljudi, posla i novca vise nego ikada, i samo ce biti vise. Ako te ne cijene doma, neznaci da je tako svugdje, spakiraj kofere i idi tamo gdje ce te cijeniti - osobito backend deva.

Zelim tu svu srecu, kad predes granice, nabrzinu ces shvatiti da sve nije tako crno kako nam svakodnevno govore.

P.S. To others, sorry for this Balkan mumble jumble, it's not so relevant if you're not from Balkans.