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So, I sign up for devrant and read all about the school devops fuckery everyone seems to have.

The only problem is, computers at my school's lab has no internet access and only a pirated copy of.... Visual Studio *6*. Hell, that's 5 years older than I am.

No python, no git, nothing. The best part, you ask? They use VS6 just for teaching 9th graders Visual Basic, and for C and C++, they use TurboC++ in DOSBox. 25-year old software. They teach us Pre-ANSI C++.

No fucking wonder people from here re-learn everything on the job. I jumped the gun and started messing with basic C++ in 7th grade, and then had to go back and remember that 25 years ago, they used <iostream.h> instead of just <iostream>.

Everyone just saves their code in the TC/BIN folder in DOS too, making it more of a chaotic mess than anything ever imaginable.

Bringing your own device? Too bad that's against the school rules.

The fact that they went out of their damn way to make me use TurboC in DOSBox on Windows 7 instead of giving me a sane Linux install with an editor and GCC is just... ugh.

My classmates all think I work magic, while all I really do is simple logic. Schools here in India are almost universally terrible.

Well, it's a good thing I started learning it on my own, because if I thought programming was in any way similar to how they try to teach it to us, I would've given up a long time ago.

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  • 17
    WHAT DID I JUST READ :O
    Good luck bro and like you said programming is NOT like what you see at school
  • 8
    that's so messed up 😢
    can't your parents write a complaint to the local education minister/head master that they waste your time and money by learning you completly useless stuff?
    describe the problem as you would explain to a 5 year old.
  • 6
    @heyheni That would work... If our computing syllabus was even a major focus for them, or even one of the bigger problems in this country's education system. Our whole public exams thing makes getting into a good university a cutthroat rat-race (think top 5% level).

    Many of us have tried (and failed) to get them to fix this, but quite frankly there's a lot of other more important stuff that needs to be fixed first. I'd explain the situation in detail if you want to, just not sure it'll be on topic with the whole dev thing going on devRant, because I'm new here after all :)
  • 3
    @Oxylibrium I feel you man, I graduated from the same shit. Every one of our colleges is the same. I doubt only the IITs are logical, and ppl who study there are not human, just crammers and most of them who nod their heads and suck up to society's rules.

    Outcasts like us have to battle through this shit. I used to put out all the programs on a open lan so all my classmates can copy. Our class built a reputation even though most of my classmates couldn't code a line.

    Try to get into AI, India can't afford to miss the AI revolution like it missed the industrial one because of the stupid British, (everything's cool with their descendants, no prob)

    Cheers, fight through it.
  • 2
    @daemonAD piece of shit illiterate politicians, this is why I hope AI takes over and does a better job of running the country.

    BTW I don't think we are primed for self driving yet, very chaotic roads. A good plan for India would be to export AI solutions as a service.

    Wait till we reach post-scarcity and then work on UBI so people don't starve from lack of jobs
  • 1
    @Oxylibrium I know that feel bro! I have seen friends who learnt star office in their higher secondary computer science course and get into a great university!
  • 1
    @leviathan our roads being chaotic makes them the best testbenches for self driving cars. But I do accept it would cause a lot of unemployment in our country.

    Exporting solutions is what we have been doing for so long. We export all the great ones but fail to use them for our own welfare!
  • 4
    Seems like theres a lot of Indian devs in here 😂 feels happy knowing people feeling miserable for the technical educational system here.. Side note, we been taught C basics on first year of CSE then C++ on second, JAVA on 3rd and PHP on final year. Things are real messed up here.
  • 3
    @htlr buddy the Indian diaspora is spread throughout the world. We are everywhere. 1 in 7 people in the world is Indian
  • 1
    Well the whole education system in India is messed up. MU is the biggest mess.
  • 1
    @octogato Ah, conio.h. Old enemies we are.
  • 2
    @leviathan Yeah We need a major reformation of our governments and social structures. Human life, over the past few hundred years changed so much with the rise of technology and like always our politicians fail to realize this and change the government, laws, etc. accordingly until it will be to late. Politicians are the leeches that suck every fun out of life and make us live in misery because they just act in their favor and don't care what's best for the masses they should be accountable too in a fucking democratic country.
  • 1
    @ElCapitan trying to change governments overnight that have been established over decades will be suicide for any country.

    India is basically left with millions of dumb people because all the smart ones leave and start working for mammoths like Google and etc.,

    The type of major reform you mentioned will take decades. More than a lifetime of a single human. There's so many issues with the country.

    We don't have a choice but to wait for the technological singularity to help us accelerate things. The next age can be a bit promising.
  • 1
    @leviathan I wasn't talking about the Indian government and more of our governments in general. I believe that we, sooner then later, will reach a level of automation (I believe you called it "end of scarcity") in most work fields that simply can not work with our governments and economic systems for a big part of the general ("Working") population and I think it's time that we focus on figuring out an alternative. If most of the goods production is automated we simply can not tolerate privately owned means of production if we don't want to be governed by some kind of super corporations who, trough controlling the production of most goods, effectively can control us.
  • 2
    @ElCapitan Fully solar powered and automated factories produce almost free goods, the cost would be just the raw materials, if logistics is also powered by Solar energy, the cost of a shirt would come down to the cost of a roll of thread.

    Basically its nearing zero charge. At that point, I won't be surprised if no one is really in charge of these companies.

    Whatever we need could be delivered in hours or even minutes to our doorstep. With no human involvement all along the process.
  • 1
    @Nanos Of course we are building towards it. We are doing our best to accelerate it.

    Everyday the news informs us of a breakthrough, we are moving one step closer towards it.

    As long as all of us try to contribute even in the tiniest way, we are moving closer each year
  • 2
    I was going to ask if you were an indian xD but you answered my question
    Ik the feels bruh

    North side here
    :)
  • 1
    This rant shows how useless some schools are. Setting up students with archaic technological knowledge is pathetic.
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