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Business User: Hey can we get a sample output you plan to send us?

Me: yes heres a mock

BU: This doesn't look right, can you use real values?

Me (said nicely): WELL IF WHEN YOU WROTE THE FCKIN REQUIREMENTS WEREN'T SO VAGUE AND ACTUALLY PROVIDED REAL VALUES FOR THE INPUTS WE WOULD GET AND WHAT WE SHOULD OUTPUT USING THEM MAYBE I COULD GIVE YOU A BETTER SAMPLE... AND DO LESS GUESSING ABOUT WHAT THE FUCK YOU ACTUALLY WANT...

BU: Oh I forwarded some data

Me: *looks at input data*

(thoughts) THIS FUCKING MAKES NO SENSE!! NOWHERE DOES ANYTHING LOOK LIKE WHAT YOU WANTED.... HOW ABOUT I PULL MAGIC VALUES OUT OF MY ASS?

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blame the last person in the chain

junk in == junk out
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  • 1
    7y
    Try some random mocks with random values, let him choose and that way you'll get an insight on what he finds satisfying and ask why to better understand his thought process.

    It also works with my girlfriend.
  • 1
    7y
    @JKyll well the problem is the value comes from some other system and we're supposed to get it from somewhere.... but currently we dont see it in any of other input feeds... so no idea if we even get it...

    pretty much all i've been doing this week is getting all the possible sources to send us data and see if they have... but all their data is also "mock data" as well...
  • 0
    7y
    @billgates you don't have a way to replicate/generate an approximation of the dataset?
  • 0
    7y
    @JKyll again why i said i might as well perform magic.... our input is some value some system is supposed to have and output is ??????? hence junk in, junk out

    proper design and testing is they provide input andf ouputs to each step....
  • 1
    7y
    whole idea behind TDD.... input -> ? -> output ... not ? -> ? -> ?
  • 0
    7y
    @ducklin5 did you know Google's machines labelled black people as gorillas? And then there was Tay naming racist remarks... And..... Against junk in == junk out
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