Me: would you like me to design the website as well?
Client: no, we have a web designer. you just have to implement it.
Me: *receives the design, made with powerpoint* 😐

PowerPoint, surprisingly, is not a bad tool for wireframes. Wouldn't he making any kind of custom assets in it, but for layout wireframing it does alright. Bonus being that most anyone can open a power point file.

@not-the-droid Definitely agree with you on the wireframes there. For someone who's familiar with Powerpoint and knows how to "hack" their way around some of its shortcomings, it gets the job done a lot quicker. There's no need for a tool with unnecessary complexity.

In my case though (this wasn't conveyed in my original post), they did a "complete" design in Powerpoint. All assets for the website (like buttons) were literally Powerpoint shapes that they wanted to me to replicate exactly. This designer person also conveniently left out a design for smaller screen sizes. There were other numerous details that suggest this person had _some_ sense of design, but is not a _web_ designer. Of course fixing all these things are trivial, given that they're willing to pay for the extra time.

After all that i'm just here wondering, what it takes to qualify as a web designer nowadays, lol.

@areimus
Yeah good point... Wouldn't call myself a designer and then pump out PowerPoint slides as deliverables.
Why is it that so many the people that profess themselves as 'web' anything are just Yahoo's with some basic css knowledge or put together a 'design' using WordPress templates?

Can you make it ‘pop’ a little more? 😝

Yes!! We have a web designer that although she uses Photoshop this is her first job as a designer (her degree is in Architecture). She understands nothing about coding or what's possible and gets all bent out of shape when we question something. The worst is when she acts like it's the end of the world when we tell her something is possible but will take a ton of work so maybe we should rethink it.

And here I sit with our designer who also sitebuild everything... I feel.. I feel blessed.

@not-the-droid ahhh... well, to be completely fair to these "web designer" people--There's no specific and official requirement out there that makes you a web designer.

e.g. (simplified examples) To become a doctor, you need to do 'x' amount of practical hours, pass certain tests, etc. To become a lawyer you need a degree, do a kind of law internship, and be called to the Bar.

That said, while i don't think web designers need a form of certification, there should be an accepted standard (i.e. "You should at least know this")

Dude , I would kill for a PowerPoint wireframe, sometimes all we have is "I trust you"

@areimus cannot agree more with you, we were talking about that yesterday at work.

@wearahoodie they... actually did say this 😂. I didn't know if i should laugh or cry at that point

@areimus Damn...good luck! 😝

@jodee929 oh no. i would think that a degree in architecture is preeeetty far off from being a web designer (closest to web, being graphic design IMHO). I wonder how she got the job? 😬

@donnico omg. They exist!

@azous hahah. Usually when i get the "i trust you" line, i tell them that changing anything is equivalent to paying for a second website, because the work put in to undo shit is 10-times more than getting it done right the first time. (not exactly true, but it scares them)

White lies seem necessary, often, in our line of work

@areimus
Again, spot on. I guess there's no 'official' authority saying that I'm a developer... I mean I could be a PHP coder for goodness sake 😅

@areimus they do! And is a bliss!

Think it's been said once or twice, but be fucking glad it's not PDF!!

@areimus Honestly I don't know... She's had various side jobs... Maybe those combine were enough 😬

A good one😂😂

Good post! I agree that website design must be done by professional in this field. After that, web developer will implement it and all other features. As far as I know, this is how almost all development teams work. By the way if you will need such services, I can recommend guys from https://dteam.dev/ from my personal experience. They created cool site for my food delivery service.

For this reason that I can only entrust web design issues to professionals. And recently I found another source that might be helpful in these matters https://masterbundles.com/add-ons/... Thanks to this, I found the necessary Lightroom filters and plugins. This helped me achieve the desired result.

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Absolutely! Approach the conversation with a focus on the value you can bring. Explain that while their design is a great starting point, using web design tools will enhance the website's functionality and accessibility. Emphasize the importance of responsive design and user experience, which PowerPoint can't fully provide. Offer to guide them through the process of redesigning with the right tools. For resources and examples of effective web designs, you might want to show them https://claspo.io/ It could help them understand the standards and possibilities of modern web design, making the transition smoother