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Teaching 7-8 year olds the basics of web design. We're we're playing with CSS and changing colours of block elements and text. One girl put up her hand, completely confused as to why it wasn't working. Her code:
Section {
Background-color: rainbow;
}
Oh the wonderful mind of children22 -
This is by far the best please turn off your Adblock I have ever seen. I actually paused my ad blocker 😂
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Yesterday's JR web dev interview:
👨🏻💻: Experience?
👶: Well JS, pyhton, UX Design and bit of Sass.
👨🏻💻: Feel like you'll have a hard time learning PHP?
👶: Well if it needs to be PHP, I can learn it.. Are you using a certain CMS?
👨🏻💻: Cool, good. Yeah we're using WordPress and need to support our sites for IE8.
👶:... Well.. ehm.. *runs away and screams in panic 💨*20 -
Design team: "Is it okay if I put this here?"
Me: "No, it's not okay if you put that there."
Design team: "Are you sure? It'd be really cool if I could put that there."
Me: "No, I will need to fuck with a lot of things if you put that there, just put it in the bootstrap columns."
Design team: "Hold on, lemme see if it's okay to put that there."
Lead-dev: "He's right, you shouldn't put that there."
Company: "We should have a meeting to discuss where the design team can and can't put things."
Lead-dev: "Just put the things in the middle and devide them in these twelve columns on seperate rows, 'kay?"
Company: "Okay, the design team will now put the thing in those things, right design team?"
Design team: "Yes, we agree to putting the thing where we should put the thing."
Me: "So where do you want the thing now?"
Design team: "I want it all the way to the right, outside of the container, that'd look cool."
Me: "Fuck you."21 -
Me: would you like me to design the website as well?
Client: no, we have a web designer. you just have to implement it.
Me: *receives the design, made with powerpoint* 😐19 -
Dear Client,
I'm very proud that you made your own logo in Microsoft PowerPoint, without any design skills whatsoever, but I unfortunately cannot use the 50x50 pixel jpeg you sent me on a professional website.
Sincerely, your face-palming Web developer.5 -
Job Ad says "Web Developer". Requested skills were HTML, CSS, PHP & XML. Go to interview & get grilled about my design skills. Web Developer != Web Designer people! Get it together! 🙄🙄🙄5
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my team: "lets get rid of materialize it doesnt work too well w/ react"
my team: *deletes materialize*
my team: *accidentally pushes to prod*
me: "guys why are we back in 2003"
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When a client refuses to pay you because they don't like the color of their logo.
I was hired to build a website.11 -
"Can you make it pop more..."
A moment of silence please, for the same fucking, irritating word that every goddamn Joe, Jim and Jenny uses for describing how a site should look. What the hell is pop supposed to mean, you want an epilepsy warning I'll put some popping lights and nausea inducing Nyan cats across your screen. You want it to pop more, sure no problem...
There's a window over there, go fucking throw your PC out of it.11 -
"We thought you'd just pick up the PSD files and copy paste them to your site, but it seems that you built it from scratch."
...fucking seriously?7 -
Friend: "what is it that you do?"
Me: "mostly web development, I make websites"
Ex-friend: "oh web design, nice"
Me: ...5 -
fuck web designers who give 0 effort for design to be coding friendly. and then want the page to be responsive. GO FUCKURSELF.3
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Here's how a client does "double murder"
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Client to designer: So you can make it run on IE 6,7,8 right?
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Turns to a web Dev who just mastered Node, React, angular: What if user disables JavaScript? It'll still work right?5 -
Oh, you're 87% Web Design, are you? Get the fuck outta here.
Literally one of my biggest pet peeves for CVs/resumes/company website templates
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Our project manager who also happens to be our web designer... (Start Up)
Project Manager: We have a go signal. Go convert this design to html and css. And make it responsive.
Me: Can you forward me the mail so I can check if it's actually approved?
Project Manager: Just do it.
Me: (After tweaking) There. It's done.
Project Manager: They want to change all the layout of the site. We're gonna do it from scratch. They didn't like the design.
Me: What? I thought your design was approved?
Project Manager: I thought so too. But i'm your PM so get back to work.
There was no mail from the client.7 -
I was tasked with maintaining a handful of chemistry simulations for the web. First things first, replace these outdated links and turn them into Bootstrap buttons that work on mobile. Wait, why do all of these look so horrible on mobile? nothing's scaling properly. *looks at fucking 1,000-line CSS file* The old developers used position:absolute for absolutely EVERYTHING. And I counted one div on the entire page. This is why you don't trust chem engineers to do your "web design" #FuckDreamweaver
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Who needs screenshots?
At my first job in a web agency, we had this client who wanted to make some changes to his website and sent them to us by email. So far nothing unusual ... until I opened the email. To show us the changes he wanted to make the guy has done these steps:
1) He took the picture of his PC screen with the smartpone
2) Printed the photo of the screen
3) He made some pencil scribbles on the paper with comments like "Here we change the font, here we change the color" and the arrows that indicated where to move some blocks of the layout
4) Then he scanned the sheet with scribbles and sent it to us as a pdf by email
Of course, all our attempts to explain how a screenshot works have been useless and he went on like this for weeks5 -
FUCK!!! FUCK IT ALL. FUCK YOU AND YOUR CRAPPY BULLSHT UNDOCUMENTED AND OUTDATED API.
YOUR DATABASE SERVER BACK-END HAS TO BE THE ONE MANAGING THE DISPLAY DATA FOR ITS WEB AND MOBILE CLIENTS. NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND, DAMN IT.
I'M NOT GONNA SIT HERE ALL DAY HARD-CODING ALL YOUR SERVER'S INADEQUACY.
MAKES ME WONDER DO YOU EVER USE DESIGN PATTERNS OR APPLY DESIGN PRINCIPLES? DRY AT LEAST? DON'T FUCKING REPEAT YOURSELF, DAMN IT.
I CAN'T WAIT TO LEAVE THIS PLACE FOR GOOD.6 -
I designed a (rough) wireframe in Balsamiq and showed it my manager for early feedback.
He was like - I really like it, but can we have some colours in it? It's more of a monochrome right now. Just black & white. FML
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First Post!
I am a student who is just starting out in cs and web design. I don't really like web design that much and don't see a future for myself but I run a small website for fun.
Whenever and I mean ｗｈｅｎｅｖｅｒ I show my roommate or friends a side project hosted on the site I get a 8 minute long speech about how an aspect of my design is flawed, how my color scheme is trash, and how I should do X thing instead. Whenever I argue and say that I like my design I'm met with "I'm the end user and the user is always right"12 -
Just before you, my fellow system programmer, scroll past this, let me say this:
🍬 The web is actiually simple. 🍬
Both HTML and CSS is declarative. It's all easy when you understand the concepts, learn how to be idiomatic and quit trying to do that imperative bullshit in languages that aren't imperative.
HTML is simple. You know the boilerplate: doctype, head, body, that's all. Just mark it up and do NOT look at it before you end, mark it up as it were article or something. The appearance is up to css.
CSS is simple. You may even forget bem or rscss, you're already a skilled software developer. Use common sense and your code-splitting and naming skills you gained reading The Code Complete or doing software development for years.
Forget mockups. Forget absolute positioning, forget setting width and height in pixels. Go to awwwards, find some inspiration. Draw some buttons and fields on paper with your good old pencil. Then go and write some css. Feel free to steal some shadows and transitions from codepen.
Read about 8-pixel grid system. Let every element push away from others by setting something like margin: 16px; and whoops! You've just got fully responsive and got great vertical rhythm without even using media queries!
Oh my god, do NEVER set width and height explicitly! Type something like button { width: 120px; } and bang! The entire web page is broken. Quit that shit. Let it resize as it should. It will resize itself to fit its contents.
HTML is by default ready for your template engine. That's how you receive data from server — as server-side rendered, plain old HTML page. On the other hand, the form element is the most axiomatic and simple way to send the data to server. That's how you send it — as plain old GET or POST that every webserver can handle.
All of there are true:
1. It's easy to get great 100% responsiveness without media queries.
2. It's easy to align items in row, it's just one line of css. Maybe two, if you still want elements to wrap, but want to use flexbox:
.parent {
display: flex;
flex-wrap: wrap;
}
3. HTML and CSS are fast by default.
4. You don't need mockups to achieve great visual experience. Mockups is imperative, web is declarative.
5. You may not even need JavaScript to make great website.
Go on, ask me a question about web! I'll ready to answer everything.20 -
Don't you just love it when you're told to redesign something and, when pressed for design scope and specifications, the people involved say "Oh it's all in my head don't worry."
But I do worry. Because I can't read minds yet and designs like that are unusually fickle. HOW IN THE FUCK DO I DESIGN SOMETHING WITHOUT SOME KNOWLEDGE OF ANY DESIGN?!
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I created website for a client, with sleek material design.
He told me that the website was too flat and needed more shadows and gradients to make it more modern and 3D.8 -
[1 year ago]
Fren: Make me web design
Me: Sure credit me or pay me whatevs
[Literally makes a good web design, I could've uploaded on dribble or shit]
[Gives it to fren, takes full credit on his own]
Me:
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Web Development on a single laptop is tough....
Window 1: editor, tabs for markup, styles, server, terminal
Window 2: browser...so small that everything is in low res mode, if not mobile.
Window 3: database, stress testing system and making sure data flows properly.
Window 4: design specs.
*shudders*5 -
I don't understand... How can people prefer complicated web pages with fancy design over the simple and effective design of your router configuration page?
I mean, look at it... It's beautiful. If I ever asked as a client to a developer to build me a website, it'd look just like this.
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When a client complains about how he can't see the site you just made for him... Because he is looking at a printout... And their printer is out of toner. *sigh*3
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Worked as a web developer on a really small agency and we always said to customers that were not designers so they need to provide us with a mockup if they want it fancy.
One customer wanted us to design a campaign site for an event and we asked for a design mockup.
"Sure, I'll send it right over!"
About 2 hours later a bike messenger knocked on our door and gave us a coaster from the merchandise. -
Dear Apple, fuck you for the iPad pro, it is probably the hardest device to do web design in mind.
It is at that point where it's screen is technically declared laptop size but just too big for being declared tablet...
Fuck you...12 -
Naming my psd file for the n-th time: superimportantrevisedfinal-final-draft.psd. I think it's time to move design stuff to a repo ffs.3
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Does anyone have a website or group that I can follow to get inspiration for design? It can be colours, web design, and logos6
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How some of our country's government websites handle responsive web design:
"Best viewed in Internet Explorer 5.x or higher in 1024 x 768 resolution"5 -
To new web devs from a new web dev:
Try to design your site before you write a single line of code. Be it Photoshop, Paint, a piece of paper, a literal goddamn canvas, you name it. You may thank yourself for it later.
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When your web design professor expects you to make your whole final HTML and CSS website project with NOTEPAD... 😖😵11
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Designer: in an effort to create our brand identity we've come up with a design pattern to use across Android, iOS, and web.
Me: this design goes against material design principles which we agreed we'd use. Also it looks like a mashup of iOS and Windows 10
Designer: just because it looks like an iOS/Windows 10 mashup doesn't mean it was designed for those platforms; it was designed as our brand for all platforms. We feel very strongly about keeping it, specifically the pieces that make you feel uncomfortable as an Android developer
Me: 🙄😑😣😒7 -
Not a rant, just feeling pretty happy about my current situation so thought I'd share!
Been stuck in a dead end job at a small web design agency - you know the type, web design, development, SEO, anything in between - for the past 5 years (I was the only dev and was relied upon to do everything).
Finally got myself a new job this year and I'm loving it so far. Was dreading actually logging my time spent on projects / tickets as my old job was pretty much a chaotic free for all, but it's left me with a sense of achievement / accomplishment and I feel more organised in my personal life too.4 -
While styling a website, I realise that I would be fired on the first day if I had a Web designer job
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It's a weird feeling when you find yourself wondering why the button is not responding, only to realize you've been clicking on the design mockup and not the actual web app you're making...
...at least it probably means the implementation is getting really close to the design. -
Got bored and threw a wrapper for devRant together and god damn it chromeOS why do you have to add a line to separate the window bar from the main content, would have looked slick!
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Went in for a meeting with a client for a web design project. The client insisted I use the GoDaddy Website Builder for this project 😳🙁10
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"There needs to be a Home option on the side menu, people won't know to click on the company logo in the top left."
What sort of fucking moron doesn't know that?
"The website is slower to click around than I'd expect."
No shit. Do you remember the part where you said we had to build it in WordPress?3 -
What do you think about the new UI of Stack Overflow?
I personally was expecting something better...
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Retarded senior web dev:
shouting 'STOP' to the ones who pointed out his design flaws
cannot accept a js file with more than 100 lines.
nitpicking others not limited to his owm group
eager to try bleeding edge alpha builds packages for large application
left the company before finishing the project he started2 -
Just received a client who wants an updated wordpress theme, Thank God he came to me. I feel sorry that he had to run a site with this font.
Going to the site for the first time gave me goosebumps.
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- Clear 15 subjects in college
- Master public speaking
- Start 4 companies ( web development, web design, web hacking & web hosting)
- Become a ++ member
- Master programming in Go, Python & JS
- Living a boss-free life
- Find a life partner3 -
I was just checking a website that a friend had designed for them a couple of years back and I was astonished at how many things were wrong with it:
- No mobile optimization, zero, null, void. There were 20px margins on either side of all the content (including navigation).
- Font size was 12px. Who does that anymore? Isn't 16px a given?
- Tons and tons of javascript and css files (support for IE7 in Font Awesome which is not even used anywhere in the website, too) - none of them minified. Are you kidding me?
- The h1 element of the website was an image wrapped in an h1. I'm sorry but Google has no clue what the website is about.
- No meta tags, none at all. No keywords or description. The website is 2 years old and it's not even found by Alexa and my website in comparison is two weeks old and I can pretty easily see its ranking and search traffic.
- The speed of the website is abysmal. The tool that Google provides scored a 2 and a 4 for mobile and desktop respectively. This is terrible.
...And I am sitting here doing nothing important with my life, pointing all of these things out, fresh out of college, while some incompetent jerk made a fairly terrible website and was paid a reasonable sum of money for it. This is just sad...3 -
*Designs front-end sends it to my boss*
Boss: Looks good. No changes needed.
*Hosts the design*
Boss: Ah, well these icons need to be different maybe and this font is too boring, try something else.
*Cries internally*4 -
the next person to say I do web design will be kicked in the head repeatedly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!22
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The worst mistake I have ever made was working for UK web design agencies.
No appreciation for their staff and honestly the worst working environment I have ever witnessed.4 -
! rant
Create graphics and web pages that jam! This it! All one needs to be a successful front end developer. :D
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Electron....
Ok so recently I have seen many people hating on electron like here https://medium.com/@caspervonb/... ...
I understand that it may not be efficient or native whatsoever but it has specific use cases in which it is ideal. For example Discord (a teamspeak/Skype for gamers) is an amazing platform and they used to be web based. Eventually people wanted a desktop app for all these platforms so they used electron. i have used discords desktop app for 5 months and NEVER have I seen it go over 1 gig of ram or 3% of my cpu.
Electron isnt bad it just has specific use cases. Its like NoSQL, it's awesome but not for everything.3 -
!rant
I sure as hell am not a designer, but I do love design. Amidst all this backend, professional work, I found some time to do what I always wanted to try. Make a sleek web page.
And here is the result:
http://iostreamer.me/design/2016/...
I would like to get some honest feedback 😃18 -
DHL Parcel website in Poland looks like is from early 2000's. This is how it looks like on 1080p screen
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Chrome 57 adds Web Assembly support.
I just know I'm going to be asked to use it soon. I just know it. It's not even close to a finished specification!10 -
when can i say " learning is finish and i know anything to make an APP"
every time i open a door i see another closed door. always there is a closed door
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Check out my web calculator designed with Google Material Design 😀😀
https://github.com/xxczaki/...4 -
This fucking teacher was my "Web Design" teacher in high school.
Okay, yes, I acknowledge that this is an entry level course, but does that honestly mean that we need to teach the same source taught to students in the 90s? You know, the one where all layouts are table/iframe-based?
I understand that I completely disregarded your set criteria for grading by using CSS to create my website rather than tables and I frames, however I believe that it's fairly logical to conclude that anyone using CSS has a sufficient comprehension of HTML to be able to pass your stupid assignments. So why must time be wasted with coding poorly designed sites? -
So this is a small glimpse of my company's website looks like after I left the company. Gosh they ruined the whole layout. I feel pity for them :P
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Im 17 and Im studying IT in Norway. I started learning to program when I was 9 years old (web design) and then later moved onto Object oriented programming. Now in some classes we do web design, I can watch Netflix in programming classes6
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When the so called "css expert" ask you why you're implementing so many things in @media all and (max-width: 800px) because it "doesn't change anything"
I had to teach him about responsive web design and chrome developer tools mobile emulation...3 -
Just purchased a new house and was looking for a new ISP. Found a local ISP that is still offering dial up services and "Professional Website Design". Their website was obviously pre-web 2.0 all static nested tables and sliced images.4
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Tomorrow the last half of my current study in web design starts tomorrow and we are going to start by going through php and asp.net.. spider duck and I are not amused and confused..
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Trying to communicate with a client's former "web guy" to transfer the clients domain back to my client so I can make changes to the design and make it mobile friendly.
He emails me "it's on Wordpress, so it's already responsive"
Go to double check on iPad and my phone. design is unresponsive... -
I am doing a diploma right now. Current module is called "website design using Dreamweaver".
And the lecturer be like "Dreamweaver is the best IDE"7 -
I don't like web design, but i'm also annoyed the people I want to have do my tattoos don't have anything on their site (just says under construction)...
Would you design a website for free tattoos (if you like tattoos), or is it still more trouble than it's worth?5 -
Does anyone know good tools to use for designing a site? Like I'm good a developing but I suck when it comes to designing :/14
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>be web designer at last company
>be put into marketing Dept
>do everything from design to dev, working closely with engineers in IT Dept
>whyamihere.png
>leave to join new tech startup
>get job title "Web Developer"
>startup forms a new marketing Dept
>be put into it
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If you're as bad at web design as me, I recommend tailwind css to you.
I've been using it today and had a good time.
By providing a set of design-centric classes, it makes it easy to learn and apply good design practices without losing css control.
This is paramount to me since I know a couple of css tricks, but not too many. With this you can't miss any of the fundamental ones.
It also lets you combine multiple classes into one via the @apply directive, so the html classes don't go crazy, and you don't have to write too much css. Huge amount of lines saved.
To top it off, they have plenty screenscasts that not only teach you how to use tailwindcss, they show you fundamentals good web design.5 -
Although Web design/development isn't exactly computer programming, I can't look at websites without judging them for how they look.
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FYI. Copied from my FB stalked list.
Web developer roadmap 2018
Common: Git, HTTP, SSH, Data structures & Algorithms, Encoding
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Front-end: HTML, CSS, JavaScript > ES6, NPM, React, Webpack, Responsive Web, Bootstrap
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Back-end: PHP, Composer, Laravel > Nginx, REST, JWT, OAuth2, Docker > MariaDB, MemCached, Redis > Design Patterns, PSRs
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DevOps: Linux, AWS, Travis-CI, Puppet/Chef, New Relic > Docker, Kubernetes > Apache, Nginx > CLI, Vim > Proxy, Firewall, LoadBalancer
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https://github.com/kamranahmedse/...2 -
I just got started in my web development course in college now but I'm really not interested in waiting another year or two to finish my prerequisites when I could be learning and making my own stuff by now. I'm learning HTML and doing pretty well. But any tips for a guy trying to get into the industry? I know CSS and JavaScript are some of the basic tools I should know and also WordPress. Any advice is appreciated? Any good online courses I could also take to speed things up a bit?11
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Some thoughts about time relations in app dev:
10% - minimal ui & coding main functions
10% - testing
10% - writing web api just for fun
70% - try to "design" an ui
Am I the only one having problems with ui?? 🤔3 -
So I just finished a little web design project that I created a while back.
Its a simple clock widget that highlights different words to create a sentence that describes the time.
I originally made it a few months ago, but never got around to finishing it up.
You can check it out at timeclock.ml
Just a little project that I though I would share!1 -
I used to think decrappifying my own CSS was hard... trying to help someone else is a whole other monster.
PHP, JS all have some method to their madness but CSS: “oh you center aligned your heading? Well guess everything else needs to be pushed wherever the fuck I feel like on the page” -
What Grinds My Gears
I must have broken some taboo with my latest "Cracked" style post because Devrant unhelpfully keeps telling me simply "there was an error creating the rant."
So I'm forced to post it elsewhere. Enjoy.
http://freetexthost.com/nuoohuxw0i
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Haven't been on here in a while, but I had to rant about these security questions. I couldn't come up with legit answers for any of the very few options; most of which required you to be married....
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I got freelance contact for this simple static website.
Now the client is having a brainstorm and started giving more and more requests for features...
Slowly it's going to be not worth it...5 -
!rant
<curious>
How do you guys format data like this? Using js framework? Or pure HTML tags?
html labels? invisible table?
</curious>
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Company has poor branding / little to no targeted marketing efforts
Builds marketing Dept
Team starts the process of rebranding
Complete website overhaul suggested and approved with a launchdate of January 1st 2019
Be me. The only web developer. Building essentially 3 complete sites in 3 ~ 4 months but the design hasn't been started nor content created. And you know the represented departments will want to nit pick at the design for like 2 weeks. I'm gonna have a stressful rest of the year.1 -
Material Design on the web was not a good experience in my personal opinion. I see these spaces around the boxes that are too huge. The faded underlined input boxes are confusing, too. I'd rather prefer seeing a border all around the input box or something of similar representation than an underline with a distracting animation. Many also fail at placing the buttons with a transparent background on the right spot. I'd still prefer Semantic UI or something clean on my upcoming projects. To me, Material Design is really good for mobile interfaces though.5
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As a web designer/developer I hate this recent trend of very light gray text fields on forms that have a white background. I don't want to have to peer at my screen for objects. My vision is average, so why would a client want this?
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I love web development and web design. You can make something custom that looks great in a short period of time. Use the many frameworks to your advantage.
Also, for the people hating css, i get it. It's har sometimes but it's not that bad. Flexbox makes your life waaay easier.3 -
When you're looking at someone's web design because you think it looks cool and then you find out they've used nested tables for everything 😁7
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In an art school. 3 years into our artistic degree. They decided to teach us web development. Me coming from a background of web though that this was going to be easy.
Little did I know that I'll see a new perspective of web design. These people, many of whom do not know of flat design, are actually making real shit that looks gorgeous! I love my classmates! -
My biggest problem with designers is when they have no empathy for the platform(s). Here's a design that I made based on my love of graphic design and Photoshop. Over to you to just slap it on iOS, Android and web. Ends up as a substandard result everywhere.
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!rant
My BFF just got his master degree in social engineering (I don't know if that's translatable this way, but whatever), so I come over to drink a beer with him. We start discussing courses he had and then...
Him : I don't know why they hired a web developper for this course.
Me : A web dev?
H : Well, more of a web designer actually. That explains why she was so severe about our PowerPoints design...
M : A web designer? Oh let me guess : kind of a tech hipster, Starbuck's on the desk, and she has a Macbook?
H : Actually... uh, yes. How did you guess?
I really don't like stereotypes, but sometimes it is just too easy 😂...
No offense intended to web designers though.4 -
My Teacher wouldn't understand the responsiveness of UI I designed and gave me 10pts for that.
I was told that my design is too unrealistic and idealistic for it to implement..
I used some css framework(to reduce the amount of work to be done) and javascript.
My dream is to become a web developer and make Desktop application with a use of ElectronJS(Currently devRantron is using).
One last thing... FUCK YOU, FOR GIVING ME A LOW SCORE FOR MY DESIGN.6 -
"Aww yeah, Bootstrap 4 is coming!"
Shut up bitch! I started 2 years back with web development when I was a noob and since then you are coming.1 -
As a programmer my girlfriend thought I did web design.
Me: If I did web design it'd come with a label saying ~---{Made in China}.1 -
This website design PSD is bullshit. If I hide the group of layers labeled "Nav" half of the page disappears.7
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Designer: Can you turn a design into HTML/CSS for me?
Me: Sure just send me the design.
//Hands over 300dpi PDF created in InDesign...12 -
I've been using Bootstrap for my websites for a long time now. I'm looking to change things up a lot on a couple of them. Anyone have any recommendations for some great bootstrap alternatives?9
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Do you guys ever feel like you lose the ability to be objective about your own work. I've looked at my website for so long now, I don't know if I think it's good or not...5
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What do you do when your client WANTS a shitty website?
If it's considered a UI anti-pattern, he wants it.
I'm pretty frustrated because I keep bringing him what I consider professional-quality work and he's disappointed, asks for something dumb instead. I made the mistake of giving him Photoshop and encouraging him to try to design some of his ideas. I thought he would be frustrated and decide, okay, Patrick knows best. But that backfired. Now I'm forced to answer basic questions about "how to delete the pixels" and end up on TeamViewer for hours trying to explain vector masks.
His current bright idea is to advertise his product with a comic strip. And let me tell you, it looks really, really awful. Not tasteful material-design-esq vectors, he thinks those are dumb, he prefers crude clipart. But he loves it.
I've kind of dug myself a hole here. It's what the client wants. But the client wants a steaming pile of shit. What do I do? Also forgot to mention, dude is my landlord and I'm behind on rent. FML
pic related; it's his comic
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Having to explain to coworkers (not devs) why a site displays differently on different screen sizes and in different browsers every time they review a new site. Also why IE8 is the work of Satan and should have a stake through its heart, have a lead weights tied to its feet and be thrown into the deepest ocean in this solar system.6
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Just css'd the shit outta this Web app... by css I mean aggressively copied people on codepen til I patched together my idea of design
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I remember at a company that I was working as a Drupal developer, I had finished building a website (both designed and developed it) using Drupal 7. I was very satisfied with the result and the way the company was operating, I had to show it to the project manager and he would say if it was OK to show it to the boss and then I would contact the client to say that we are finished.
When I showed it to the PM, he provided some changes from his personal "I know everything" book and after I made them, we both went to the boss' office. Keep in mind that I had built the website following the clients notes and preferences (custom sliders, certain color swatches etc.) and I was on point.
So, after we entered the office, we sat and I was pumped to hear good news. But, not a minute passed since the page loaded and the boss was clearly unhappy with the result, and more specifically with the changes that the PM provided (not even my fault). When he finished talking, I tried to explain that I followed exactly what the client said and executed accordingly, without the changes that the PM had put on the table. Suddenly, the boss' face was angered and turning red(ish). He started shouting at me and saying that I was not experienced enough to know what I am saying (I was 21 years old at the time), and that they had the experience to criticize if the website was ready or not and if the client would like it, pointing out that I wasn't capable of knowing what the client needed.
I was bursting in my chest, I felt a fire burning with anger and righteousness, but I turned my face down and apologized. It SUCKED! It felt SO bad. I took the notes that he said (which changed 90% of the website's design) and after that I called the client.
I felt some kind of vengeance when the client started shouting at the PM, when he saw the website. He yelled and said that, the design that the boss chose, was not remotely close to what the client had requested.
Next day after I finished the website with the design I had provided, the boss was looking at me like a (proud) wet cat, saying 'well done' but not another word, while entering his office.
Well, at least the client was happy at the end! That's all that matters, right?4 -
So I don't know what it is with like teachers that teach any computer/coding course.
First off my computer programming teacher is this big white hippie dude who claims he brings rain wherever he travels. Imagine some dude who claims to be part Native American but he's super white. Anyway our district uses Google Classroom, imo I think it's a great way to share assignments and what not but this man, does not get it. I have almost a failing grade due to this man not letting me edit a Google docs, so instead I make a copy locally and then turn it in. I don't think the dude checked his thing or whatever that I attached a file.
And then I have this wacko web design teacher. He like makes us use Dreamweaver in class cause it's so "much easier than coding" and like imo I don't like it too much. One day he put something on the Google drive folder for our class to copy and paste, he did something wrong and we couldn't get them so he gave us a free period and says "tomorrow I'll make CDs so you guys can copy the files directly"....?! There are so many other things you could have done sir. Like maybe a Dropbox? Another Drive folder? BUT CDS? 3 OF THR KIDS DIDNT KNOW WHAT A CD WAS AND IT WAS SO CRINGY
tl;Dr highschool computer classes are no2 -
This started off as a rant but it soon grew way too large to fit in 5000 characters, so I had to take to my Medium blog instead.
Here, y'all, have a lesson in web design from hell.
https://medium.com/@linuswillner/...3 -
TIL that our creative design team that produces our web designs/layouts are all print designers. They were stumped when I gave them a wireframe mock up as the base for a website design for the first time, with no defined pixel measurements.7
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I just used booking.com and good fucking god is the whole website a shit infested hell hole. They use scammiest and pushiest techniques to make you book a place asap without giving you space to breathe and read details.
They try to obfuscate what's actually necessary with what they want to take from you. For example just before reserving a room there's a checkbox that's close enough to words "terms and conditions" and "privacy policy" for unsuspecting user to habitually check it to proceed. However, you clicking "reserve" is considered your consent and that checkbox simply adds your email to their spamming list.
There are countless examples of absolute asshole design within every inch of that place and I don't even want to imagine what they do with my data.
Suffice to say this was the first and last time I will use their services and if I were to give any advice, is "don't be the dick responsible for website/app/service similar to booking.com"5 -
Me: *clicks on quick web design demonstration video*
All website builder ads: Fuck your entire profession!2 -
Hey guys, hope you all have a great day.
I am not a professional developer yet because I still didn't have my first client. My goal is to become a freelance Web Developer.
At me moment I working on my own website because I can't hope to find a client if I don't even exist on the Internet.
I already have some kind of prototype but the problem is that it looks really bad in my eyes because I'm anything but a designer.
So my question is if you know any resources where I can learn web design, trends, good practices, theories, anything really.3 -
I'm trying to express a simple thought
I fucking love web and graphic design.
Bye. [Drops the microphone]1 -
Are WYSIWYG web editors worth it? Or is it better to just code entire websites without something like that? I've only ever done the latter.11
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Wanting to animate an arrow turning.
Has jQuery and thinks of. animate().
Spends 2 hours wondering why it won't rotate.
Reads in smallprint "jQuery doesn't support CSS3 animations."
There goes the time I didn't have -_-8 -
The struggle it is to find some music and sounds for a small game I'm working on...
I have even come across this website that provides "free" sound effects, but every single track costs like $2.95. The word "free" was literally in their website name.
And then I didn't even mention the fact that 80% of these websites ask you to log in to download files from their end.
At last but not least, some are offering .mp3 files for free, while the .wav version, with the EXACT SAME FUCKING content costs money. I could literally just use a file converter
Can't wait until I get my stuff to create my own music and sound effects4 -
The way this site we inherited chose to help customers pick an appointment date. You have to calculate the week number of the day you want to have the appointment on. Just why!?
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A customer requested the graphic drafts for a website with a serious design. He left me the complete freedom. After six shot down including three drafts inspired to important designers and one inspired to material design, I decided to make something absurd asking the customer his favorite colors. I am ashamed to have created a design with shades of green, white, orange and yellow on a green background. He said it was fantastic.3
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So... I'm finally diving into web design.
Vue for front-end and codeigniter for backend, what do you think?11 -
Going to design a contract for my services it's going to include additional costs for additional changes because with clients the job is never done 😉😉3
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Rebuilding my poetry website with React and Material Design. Adding a file upload page. Is it just me, or is simply super fucking easier embedding Google Forms in a web app, than working through form validation in JavaScript.6
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Why won't they listen to us the first time?
One of my client's logo used blue and orange colors. He wanted the website to be echo friendly by using most of the green in the web design. We suggested that it would make the web design seem weird but he disagreed.
Anyhow, we went on with the design and designer actually did a pretty good job making the design look great in green along with 2 logo colors. Design was approved. We coded the website and asked the client to do final testing.
Today, I received an email from the client that he wants to remove echo friendly -- the green color -- completely from the website and replace that color with the logo colors.
FML.3 -
My main area of focus is consistent therapy from working with PM's.
In other news, I work on the frontend design and development of internal web applications, good times. -
My girlfriend, at the end of a totally unrelated bachelor's degree, has decided she wants to go into web design (or really design in general). Which is exciting cause her degree... Well, let's just say jobs aren't lined up.
I'm a front end guy and I have a lot of experience with UX, so time to crunch some learning in. Takes me back to my self teaching days haha, students becomes the teacher 🙈6 -
I always used a Linux VM or xammp to test the sites I make, yesterday I found out about Caddy and its love. Drop a file in the folder named caddyfile and add the executable and your running nothing needed and when your done remove 2 files and push to the server.6
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1-Trying to learn vb6 and failed
2-trying to learn vb.net and failed
3-try to learn asp.net c# then failed
4-web design, failed
5-security, failed
6-network, failed
7-learn how to avoid proctasting
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Freelance web devs: where can I find some examples of industry standard pricing?
My partner has an opportunity to design a site for a newspaper she writes for, but has never done this before and doesn’t know what to quote...4 -
I know a bit of css but like I lack the ability to like design or organize anything for web design. Is there like any books that would help?1
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What's your opinion about Dreamweaver? I haven't seen any web devs talking about it in all of the space of programming community. Is this because it's a software more focused on design itself or have some special motive either?4
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I told the designers how a web works a hundred times.
I thought they got it.
Today they handed me a "web design" as an InDesign file.2 -
My friend/partner told me on the first week that he "can code" and he will "do the front end of the web page" (its a web application design mod)
Needless to say I had to carry the whole work because he couldn't design nor write php.
Or write a report
He submitted the wrong report
He had one job
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Imagine if socket.io's website is ugly. Having a beautiful image helps a lot, too. When I hear socket.io, I would immediately think of that clean and aesthetically pleasing site.5
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A while back I was learning web development so I could create web apps. I'm by no means any good at graphic design and whatnot, so every time I'd make a page to rig up with some JS I would get really frustrated with trying to make the page look decent and professional (not professional quality design, but usable as an application in a professional setting), even with bootstrap.
Does anyone have tips for getting over that hurdle? I want to learn, but I get discouraged by my graphical ineptitude.2 -
When you go to apply to a web design company and they have this exact bootstrap layout http://adventurega.me/bootstrap/
A company that designs websites can't make itself one?!?2 -
Dear Quora
I logged out of your site because somehow you had me logged in and I don't like being tracked.
In the future, don't be petty by reloading all my OTHER tabs the moment you detect im logged out, intentionally breaking/disabling the backbutton, and then demanding I log back in.
kthnxbai.
Sincerely
- unsubscribed from your useless god damn spam emails.
If I can't even fucking read your site after logging out, like I USED to be able to, and you go so far as to detect my log out on OTHER tabs, disable/break the backbutton on all the OTHER tabs, and reload the page, then your site is useless as dogshit to me.
If I were the CEO of the executive who made this dumbfuck marketing decision I would fire him.
And then spitefuck his wife to drive home the message of how god damned fired he is.3 -
There's nothing quite like doing a final handover of a website to a client then having a look at it a few days later....1
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Three Linux distribution installs in quick succession and every one of them has broken features or troubling UI design.
All I wanted was a VM for a bit of local web dev learning.21 -
There's this one kid in my web design lab (I go to a technical highschool) and he always brags about using bootstrap and that's all he does is copy from the bootstrap library pisses me off!
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That moment when you are 50% ahead in the sprint and then the designer comes and says:
"I updated the design a bit"..
boom! an entire new website...
Ok maybe not that bad, but .... sometimes..... *sight* .... web designers :/ ... -
Is it possible to do both web design (Photoshop and the look of sites) and do front end coding for sites with HTML and scss is it all learnable?15
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Once I realized the power of ASP.NET in my Advanced Web Dev class... It was like a culmination of all of my favorite things: web design, programming, instant gratification....
My life would be forever changed 👐2 -
Sooo as someone that just started using photoshop (got it for free at work) i can see the benefits of it for actual design. But are there any ways to convert to an actual web page other than by just sucking it up and going through the code by design? I see no much difference than looking at a shit of paper with a drawing of something and coding it. Am I missing something? Mind you I do know how to code, sure I am lacking in the design dpmnt ( more of a backend / mobile dev)7
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As a web developer who focuses on accessibility, why is it so goddamn hard to get buy-in for accessible design?!
If you design to be the most accessible possible regular users benefit from an experience that works, for as many people as possible, in more situations than most test for normally!5 -
I think it was trying to learn how to make a CSS-only drop-down menu -- especially multi-tiered.
Even though that's when I was first learning, I'll admit I never totally conquered that one. As much experience as I've had with CSS over the last several years, I haven't had to build one of those menus in a while, which kind of means having to do it again will be frustrating again.
Or I can cheat and use whatever CSS framework I'm using at the time. 😏2 -
Hand-coded or drag-and-drop web design do you prefer? And why?
I have been hand coding for a long time since I started programming. In fact, HTML is my first 'language'. I found that it is very slow to code compared to my normal friends who use Wix - which makes me consider a change.
Plus, I am not very good at designing.6 -
Just sent a series of design visuals for the client to look at for his new website, expecting some feedback. A few hours later he sends an email saying, "my main competitor" with a web link and nothing else. What the fuck am i supposed to do with that? Id already studied all his competitors prior to commencing the design visuals, how am i supposed to respond without being condescending?3
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I took my first job as a web designer, not knowing that i would never create a single design. Instead, i was suddenly expected to be a actionscript developer. So suddenly i was a developer.
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I'm interested in learning machine learning so I've started delving into it. I wanted to make a bloggish website that tracked my progress but for the life of me, I can't do web design. :/6
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!rant
Any good sites/tools for fast web design prototyping? (like jsfiddle but without having to refresh the view (at least manually))13 -
The real web development is optimising the shitty front end code.
The task assigned to me is optimisation of dashboard page of website which was developed by freenlancers.(end of contract from their side)
The front end is mess. Individual js files (bootstrap, popper, jQuery, jQuery ui, loader and main) loading in production inside head tag of html file
No text compression.
Every template has random number of their own js files in any block of template. Nothing structured. There will be fantastic waste of time figuring out file dependencies.
Same with css files. Some are scss, some plain css. No compression. No proper modules.
Basically, I have to go through 25-30 html files. Then understand, which template is extending which one. Go through all js and css files in each html file and again understand dependencies between them
This is gonna be real fun.2 -
I keep thinking that I need to set up my site for a portfolio or something, but then I remembered that I'm really bad at coming up with designs.
Have tried to look up some other sites for inspiration, but I always get these really impressive sites that me feel even more potato :c
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If ever a jinn grants me a wish I would ask him to build me a webpage. If he does I'll report back to you guys wether he went for material design or not, the JavaScript framework, the backend language, client or server side rendering etc.
Waiting for a jinn...1 -
I have to confess, the first time I saw a framework like bootstrap I hated it because I didn't understood most of the HTML with a lot of tags with classes everywhere. It took me like 3 weeks to learn how to use it right and I made 3 websites from 0 in the process.
One day I read about a framework that uses Material Design rules (which I apply in my electronic projects with rgb screens). Since that moment I started to use it. I love how easy it´s to do a complex thing with a few lines.
For those who are starting with web design, give it a try to these frameworks. They will make your life easier. I was the kind of guy that writes every single line of html, css and javascript by hand.5 -
Some guys at my school are talking about their web design test. Apparently they only learn the definitions to some vocab for the first 2 months.
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Making an ad for web design.
Give me your puns to design something around so it isn't boring...
Go!4 -
Hey people,
Can anyone point me at a cms that I don't have to fight with design and programming wise but is still easy for someone not even close to tech savy to edit and add content?15 -
fuck the overengineered bulshit that ZF2 is... fuck crappy mvc in web, fuck shitty design, tuck events, fuck 'security feature' that obfuscates the fucking redirect login/logout urls fuck not having your full link, but just the path everywhere, fuck whitelabeling, fuck somebody's sister, fuck me and fuck you....1
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Every day and especially at night in my bed, I go through different websites that talk about the web design and development. It's very important to me .. To learn and always be informed of trends.
What is the website that you like the most? The one you read every day and you think to be the only one to know ? Mine is : Website Deconstruction ( http://websitedeconstructions.com ) . A website that dissects others to understand how they are constructed and how they work.
A really good one.3 -
I want your opinion about designing a web.
What is better for you?
1) A web page with 2 files (e.g. page1.html and page2.html), so the client must send a request for each content.
2) A web page with 1 file (e.g. page.html) with all the content in divs with 'display: none' and switch between them wth javascript.
Thanks!13 -
Ayy. It's time. Someone wants to hire me to make a site for them...
How much do I charge? 😭. They also said they want it as an exclusive design that I can't do for anyone else. It's one of my first proper ones so its basically my baby
But yeah. How much is appropriate?
Do bare in mind that I'm broke af 😂. Suggestions in GBP please6 -
can anyone suggest how can I get started as a freelance web developer(PHP-CodeIgniter)
I tried to go to local businesses, but no one wants to get a Website for their business. I live in a small town.
I tried freelancing websites, but no results.23 -
In 2019, we still find a contact form with a required checkbox to register at the newsletter and sales solicitation.
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My school's web design Quizlet has declared that all blind people shall now only be called "Blind". Just Blind.
Side note.. since when is a class called "a css". It gives me the giggles for some reason.
😝
Edit: I forgot to attach the picture. Oopsies
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Rant: I hate when clients complain about sizing so a team member changes my entire heading system just to change header size without going over it with anyone else I. The teach damn if it breaks shit other places or scrapped many hours of mobile testing, even better then changed class names some places ignoring our frame work and breaking mobile.
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Hmmmmm, the Web designer, that's designer not developer, for an ecommerce job I'm working on, just suggested we use WordPress or a html template, rather than create her own. (obvs I denied WordPress as a tool) She's not new to the game either, is she being lazy and cutting corners, or just utilising what's already available with templates?5
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Initially,I used codeacademy in highschool, because my school didn't offer a programming class, just web design and cad. Never got into the web design class, so I took three years of Autodesk AutoCAD in highschool. I took the HTML course on code academy and thought it was alright. Ended up going to a community college not knowing what i wanted to do. I'm currently on track to getting an associate's in CS, because I was told the school said they were sunsetting the cad program. Finishing up my capstone project and presenting it in two weeks.5
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Tips: The Humble Book Bundle: Web Design & Development by O'Reilly
https://humblebundle.com/books/...1 -
web devs... what are the commom screen sizes you use for responsive design. I used the bootstrap grid but there are some tablets which resolution is higher than a normal conputer and that tablet is considered as a computer. Is there any css-only-way to make a difference between desktop, tablet and cellphone?4
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Any Web Dev or Design managers out there who interview candidates, should a front end developer have a Github for his portfolio or hosted on his own site? I'm torn.3
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Need some advice
Hey everyone! I'm just starting out in web design as a freelancer. What according to you is a good starting price I should charge a client?
I've got a client asking for prices and I'm not sure what to charge.
Any other tips would be appreciated :)3 -
Have a BS in Web Design & Development from a university...but am wondering if I should go attend a community college and get a degree in programming too.
I feel like YouTube and Lynda would serve me just as well also...8 -
In college.
Created event registration site with jQuery and Material design.
I had no web dev knowledge -
Ok so guys, I really love back-end, but sometimes I'd like to do a complete software to show off to friends in my free time, So question:
What programming language should I learn to make gui softwares?
I don’t want them to be pieces of art, just functional and with not too man " unintentional features".
I really love Python, but for gui heard it's meh, but may be wrong
I don't want web technologies
looking forward to learning C, but not necessarily for gui
could try c++ I guess
Don’t want .net (coz you know ms and their Java knockoff)
Ruby seems cool, but it seems to be annihilated by ruby on rails
Not Java but Kotlin seems really cool, could also go with scala, idk
Forgot the other things3 -
So I've been looking at web dev job apps recently and reading over some of the requirements needed and almost every company advertising for a web dev is also wanting a web developer who is also a 10/10 web designer... this proper irks me as after doing a course which helps you ease easily into the web industry being a competent designer wasn't a requirement.
Why is it that to be a web dev now days you need to be also good at designing?2 -
This might be a stupid question but due to the rise of services like Wix and Wordpress that make creating websites a breeze, will web design and development die in the near future?3
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So we are nearly in 2018 yeah...
Today I received a "web design" and mockups were exported (by a design agency), in pdf...
That is too much for me. I take my day off.6 -
Found this on my class's Quizlet group for the web design test.
*Now look at the photo*
USE CSS GOD DAMN IT! THIS ISN'T 2003.
It's also about FOUR WEEKS INTO THE SEMESTER AND THIS IS ALL THEY LEARNED.
well, at least theater tech is a class next year, so I don't have to take this.
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Guys, I would like to learn how to make web design for mobile. But I don't know where to begin, can you help please?13
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So I'm finishing my last career class, it's called Web Design. I was really enthusiastic about it, because I've been doing that for almost 5 years. Then the professor wanted us to do a work comparing HTML 4 with 5, ok, that's history, I like history. Then he wanted us to do "Your first website", aahaaam, using just plain HTML and sending the content via .zip. Ouch!
Then I asked if I could do a SPA in React. He doesn't even know what is that. He thought it was an IDE.
I don't feel disappointed, I don't feel angry, I just want to hug him and tell him to study Web Design.
How can a professor in 2019 not know about the trending technologies it's been used to do web design?
Now I don't know what to do. I don't want to do a horrible plain HTML website, and I don't even want to do a "complex" thing for him and then have a 0.7 -
Community Question:
I'm on a lone-project for work. That means I have to make a design plan and documentation. I have zero experience with this, anybody know a good example on the web of either of these? Much appreciated!2 -
!rant
Imagine you're a dev for mobile apps (xamarin based) and you have a great project opportunity for a client.
The problem is that the project would (besides an app) involve a web version and you don't have any experience in web development.
How would you hire a web developer for this? Via freelancer platforms like twago, via an agency or request a project from some web design company?
Related question: does anyone know a good web frontend developer :)?5 -
So, this guy wants to pay me to do his final project for a web design class. Easy money, but highly unethical. My hours at work were cut to basically zero, so I could really use the cash. What would you do?
(Alternatively, if anyone is aware of any open projects that AREN'T unethical, I'm all ears)7 -
I'm building a web application, and I'm currently working on the account registration code, and I could use some design advice. In your opinion, is it better to say "username/email address in use" when one or both are in use, or would it be best to specify whether the username or email address are in use? Why?1
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Been working on one of my websites. Lots of Javascript dynamic page loading and stuff. Wondering how everyone thinks it looks and how I can improve the UI/UX.
https://liquidfyremusic.com4 -
To you, what's the best way to notice that user failed to log in/complete a form ? Alert, fading text, animation ? I'm talking about design7
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When you have a degree in computer science, certifications and the non-developers know you as the Design Guy/CSS Guy 😞😞😞
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!rant
Does anyone know a good (and possibly free) mockup software mostly for web design (desktop would be nice too).1 -
Call out to all web developers out there... what IDEs is everyone using?
I started with notepad++ a few years ago then moved onto atom... I’ve tried a few others but never really got attached to them. Is there any other, anyone thinks is better than atom?10 -
Hosted my very first project, developed back in Aug18.
It has been a wonderful journey as a programmer.
Link to my first web development project(I should say web designing cuz it doesn't have any db XD):
https://nitinsautomobilewebsite.herokuapp.com/...
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Called in for an interview for graphic design, didn't get it. Same company contacts me a few months later for a web design opening. I get the job. They were behind on graphic design work, so my first few months were helping them to catch up. One day they asked how the web site was going. I was like, uh, you've been scheduling me graphic design since I started. It took a few more months to get my plate cleared completely but I was able to finally build out their site and a photo appointment scheduler that we could all love.
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Im in the startups of starting my own business, a web agency. Any of you guys that has any previous experience or any "good to think about"? That you want to share?1
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Any web designer who wants to cooperate? I need help with the design of my personal website :/
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When a video on YouTube is scrolling down a website and you scroll down for real thinking that the website would scroll while your video goes up 😂😂😂😂
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Anyone that recommends a book that is not boring to read, has figures/code examples and easy to understand for design principles such as SOLID?1
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I have an issue that I just can't shake and wondered if anyone had any insight.
I'm currently working for a company that is going through a ruff patch when it comes to google rankings dropping off.
I'm the developer who is rebuilding his sites, I've told him that his site is very flat as in no content and he need to start writing articles within his industry.
No buying strength at all just a catalogue of products categorised.
But the guy doesn't get it and insists in spending money on PPC Google shopping which gets him a 83% bounce rate.
I keep going on and on at him how he is doing to much advertising and not enough content marketing but he just doesn't get it.
What would you do ?.1 -
I am looking for a partner for an idea that I have. Looking for experience in UI/UX design as well as database incorporation. Can be iOS or web app developer. Comment if interested5
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Hi guys and gals!
Currently in the search for a good management team for solo freelancing projects. I've used Trello before but am looking for something that maybe tracks time spent on tasks for hourly charge and is more defined to web development/design.
If anyone has any suggestions they would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks in advance! Keep on keeping on!4 -
Just a question...
I’m using semantic-ui as a framework for web designing, but is it necessary to learn to create my own design from scratch?
Need your opinions fellas.
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