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You are correct, much of the internet is powered by advertisement marketing. The problem is not the ads themselves, its the possible exploitation of ads. Its the exploitation of data. We've seen this a number of times, with ads that inject malicious code into a site, with data misused to drive a political or social agenda.
I don't care if you use the fact that I frequently interact with oranges to decide that a SunnyD advert is appropriate to show me. I care about the fact that you're selling that information on to a third party. In selling that information, you lose control over it. It can be used to create a false opinion of SunnyD, or tell me that ORANGES FOUND TO CONTAIN CARCINOGENS or such nonsense like that.
Or, for the sake of argument, let's assume someone finds my information and sees that I've commented "Allahu ackbar" on a very unPC joke. They don't see the context in which I made the comment. They also happen to be someone who investigates terrorism. -
I'm on board with your rant, with but one exception. When i use facebook* i'm fine with facebook harvesting my data because they need to make money. But i'm not fine with facebook and google tracking me troughout the internet via like-buttons and google-analytics even though i don't use any of their services. That's where i draw the line and that's where i have the right to be angry imo.
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They pull my advertising/activity ID and see that I keep up to date with political movements. They see I have a passing interest in military operations. They see that I have once or twice visited /r/darknetmarkets.
They build up a case to investigate further and identify me. Suddenly I can no longer fly within America. Suddenly, I'm being questioned at the border when I visit France on business. One day someone knocks at my door and asks me for an "interview". I become paranoid and strongly anti-government. I start questioning everything. My life and my mental health takes a nosedive. I lose the few friends I have left because I can't trust them.
That's the problem with a lack of privacy, and yes. It has happened to more than one person. -
You know that you can ask why people don't like something right? All of the "[popular thing] is disliked because it's popular" kinds of assumptions are really really moronic.
You know why people don't like ads? This
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
is why. Here's a direct and really good example
https://networkworld.com/article/...
And here is more reading material, why not https://arstechnica.com/information...
Ads with sound, pop up and under ads, and loud obnoxious generic as hell movie trailers that start with an explosion and then a lout trumpet bååååååååååååt right before ASMR videos are also things that you ought to consider -
@fuck2code Never, I'd rather jump of a fucking bridge! Although I'm wondering what a 'fucking bridge' looks like...
Anyways, I'm fine with paying for services if they are open and respect privacy and in fact, I fucking do.
I use Tutanota premium with a custom domain and multiple custom emails. It costs me a little every month while I don't even need premium features but I do want to support them. If signal would cost money (Max like 10 euro a month or so) I'd damn well pay for it, same for duckduckgo.
@TheAniMatrix I do not mind paying for services if they serve the users.
Take Google and Facebook. I wouldn't mind their existence if:
- they would only collect data from users who choose to use the services.
- they wouldn't try to track everybody everywhere (thus respecting their privacy)
- they wouldn't be directly integrated within the biggest mass surveillance program/network/engine ever created.
- I wouldn't have spend loads of time to keep those services out of my network because I don't want to have anything to do with them.
There are plenty of services which honour those points so it's definitely possible. -
@linuxxx But linuporn, don't you feel like you're entitled to free stuff, and privacy whenever you post your phone number on your ex' wall? /s
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@inaba Right now I'm actually happy that I don't have any ex's yet.
Also don't have a girlfriend, though 😞😠-
@fuck2code I'm more like the 120fps moron (60hz display)
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Everyone collects data .. Like it or not . Unless it's decentralized and stuff in which case your requests are still probably logged somewhere . Now selling the data I don't like that part very much but it happens and we know it . So why act all astonished when such stuff shows up on the news.
It's just like an over reaction . You knew it all along so why curse over it now .If you really want to browse subreddits on terrorism, you should do it on a line you laid on your own from your house to reddit and then ask reddit to make you anonymous . Your ISP collects data too you know . It's probably deep in NSA's pocket too .
Well yeah the world is a difficult place but there's no practical way as of yet to implement such a secure hidden identity for yourself .
Not paranoid enough ? NSA probably has enough computing power to generate an accurate hashed arch linux installation with a spybot hidden inside and put it on their website . Yeah it's a bit on the imaginary side but it possibl -
@TheAnimatrix go to bed or take a walk or something else away from your screen.
Then when you come back you might realize you're overreacting really hard
when your code is a mess but everything work out in the end
Privacy is a legend
Why the fuck is everyone behind this whole privacy thing . I mean what did you expect , servers do cost... you know . No one wants to provide you a service to chat with your shit collecting butler in the adjacent room unless it's going to benefit them .
Stick your face on the internet and want people to date you ?
Understand that your virtual social needs need to be supported by a ridiculous amount of electricity and man power which wouldn't be required if you could just throw out your rotting willie nilles in the open .
All this isn't fucking free .. wait were you shocked ? Oh so you just thought there were a few thousand servers powering buckets of pictures of horse poop that you for some reason thought your girlfriend was interested in . NO!
IT'S PRIVACY you are paying with your gaddamn privacy !! Information pays just like the time you paid a 100 bucks to the boyfriend of your girlfriend to find out more details .
Ridiculous . You people don't like ads . You don't like paying . You don't like providing information . THEN DON'T USE THE DAMN INTERNET .
IF YOU'RE REALLY THAT CONCERNED ABOUT YOUR PRIVACY THEN SPEND SOME VALUABLE TIME TO ACQUIRE ENOUGH OF A SKILLSET TO SETUP A VPN AND STOP POSTING YOUR PHONE NUMBER ON YOUR EX'S WALL ASKING HER TO CALL YOU.
One more honest thing to rant about is ads . As much as you hate them they're an easy way out . I'm not sure why a 20 second ad would bother you on mobile and not on television and I'm not sure why you wouldn't buy the ad company and shut it down if 20 seconds were so costly to you .
I want to rant even more on uninstalling services like Windows and Google for stupid reasons but I'll take a break here . My frustration has touched low levels.
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