I wish I started using intellj for java so much earlier.
I can't begin to explain my hatred for eclipse.

The debugger is so awesome, that little feauture of showing variable values after them is great

Literally the only thing I don't like is the hassle you have to go through to create a serial version ID.

When Eclipse was first released and open sourced by IBM it was awesome. After they started trying to make Eclipse work with every language and make it "modular" it got crappier and crappier.

we all say that once we find something better... same I said when i started using Eclipse after breaking from BlueJ. Now I'm also on IntelliJ and at times, go back to eclipse.

But IntelliJ is also modular and supports numerous platforms @binhex

@debug That's correct - JetBrains just happens to implement that by having separate IDEs instead of jamming everything into one package.

basically, eclipse is a kitchen sink

@codingHorror do you happen to be THE Jeff Attwood?

@debug naaah just picked up that name randomly

@binhex actually, they don't and I love it. I mean, if I want to use Java, Python, HTML, CSS, JavaScript, PHP whatever simultaneously, then I just install a plugin into IDEA and don't need to use IDEA, Pycharm, Webstorm, Phpstorm whatever simultaneously. So far there's no plugin for Clion features but it is still under huge development.