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So, my friend and I want to start a small business. For that, we will need an online shop. Since it's not happening tomorrow, I figured I could take the time and build it myself.
However, I've never done anything of the sorts, so... where do I start?
I don't have any specific tech stack in mind, I am new to it all.
Help?

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  • 1
    How about opening a seller account on Amazon? And wish you good luck BTW!
  • 2
    just buy one. and start from there
  • 1
    @bigus-dickus @starer93
    I wanna learn how to do one myself though
  • 1
    @undef
    I'll check it out, thanks!
  • 1
    I don't see anything wrong with learning. On the contrary, your intention is plausible.
    However, how good you are in coding generally? What about writing maintainable and *highly secure* code? If you feel confident here, by all means, go ahead. I would start with php7+ and react.
  • 1
    I wouldn't recomment you do it yourself, it's a desaster waiting to happen
  • 3
    @ameware I am just giving out a suggestion, PHP7+ on the server end and Angular 5+ on client end.
  • 2
    @arazzz
    I am open to any suggestions!
    I'm a QA automation engineer, so I haven't really developed much just yet, but I'd love to get started. My timeframe isn't even set yet, so I can take all the time in the world.
  • 1
    @ameware php, and w/e you good at with in front end. Java or .NET can works(if you prefer), but a lot more code to write
  • 4
    Apart from developing the cart, you would need a full cms, front end design, pci compliance, payment gateway integration, gdpr considerations and above all security. This is a massive task and shouldn’t be a first job in your developer role. It would take a huge amount of planning before writing a single line of code.
  • 1
    If you are saying, you have to learn to develop an e-commerce shop to run online business .. I also agreed with numerous previous comments.

    What's your priority?

    Want to learn how to develop an online shop?

    or

    Want to earn profit from an online shop?

    Very different things.

    // not to sound too /r/iamsosmart here are few links that may help you with building an e-commerce website using laravel

    https://laravelvoyager.com/

    https://microweber.com/

    https://codementor.io/pknerd/...

    https://microweber.com/
  • 1
    @cursee
    My priority is to learn how to develop it.
    We can make do with something as small as a facebook page for now and just migrate to this at some point, it's no big deal.
  • 1
    @helloworld
    I guess I have my work cut out for me 😊
    I'm really interested in knowing how to cover all that, any words of wisdom for me?
  • 1
    @ameware i am only good with php and laravel, so I have shared a few links that might help you if you are interested in php and laravel :)
  • 0
    @cursee
    cool, i'll look, thanks!
  • 2
    @ameware if you want a quicker approach voyager and microweber are for you.

    If you want to start from scratch, codementor guide is for you.

    Laravel already has authentication, social login, payment gateways and standard basic security features included default. So learning Laravel is one of the wise choices, IMO.
  • 1
    @bigus-dickus Doesn't work.

    Jeff is an asshole and loots sellers.

    @ameware Shoot your questions at me. I am working on my own startup/business/project and have spent some time learning things so might be able to help you.

    I will try my best.
  • 1
    @ameware meanwhile read my blog which lure some investors.

    http://prismo.net/blogs/...
  • 1
    @Floydian
    Thanks! Any tips for me?
    Wish there was a chat feature 😖
  • 1
    @ameware Discord? Hit me up at Floydian#9547

    Tips as in? That's a broad vague question. Be specific or let's chat.
  • 1
    @Floydian
    Saw the blog comment after hitting post, interesting and helpful read.
  • 2
    @Floydian your website is elegantly clean and minimal just like your bald head. 10/10

    // this is really a serious compliment, in case anyone doesn't get it.
  • 2
    @ameware Okay so any further help required?

    @Cursee hahaha thanks. I am into zen so it helps. Being a tester and loving UX and details, I end up making good things. LOL

    Also, the code is fucked up and want to rebuild the entire thing. Sadly, I suck at coding.
  • 1
    @Floydian
    would love to hear your motivation, your "why"
  • 1
    @ameware Alert! spam incoming.... hahaha good question though...
  • 2
    @Floydian I didn't mean Amazon as a go to solution for starting an online business. I didn't realize she was ok with doing everything from scratch, in which case again, I wish her all the best.

    I mean starting from scratch takes a lot of time and resources. From designing, setting up the the service, server, maintenance, scaling up, SEO etc it all adds up to pretty soon.

    In my opinion, trying your luck with a readymade solution first helps one learn a few tricks in the business. It helps you concentrate on the product more which may also help improving it. Not that you shouldn't design your own service, I think studying your customers and their requirements first goes a long way.

    And I say this from experience.
  • 2
    So it all started somewhere back in 2011. Vacations were over and people were just coming back from home. My room-mate asked me, what do we know to stand out in market.

    With all confidence, I replied, 'I know MS Word'. And he asked me few things and I failed miserably.

    I stopped goofing around on YouTube and picked up Digit Magazine's PDF, 'Photoshop for dummies', which I smuggled from another hostler. LOL

    I learned Photoshop and surprisingly was a little bit creative. On a campus of 5K+ students, I was known for my work. People used to come to me for help and I used to deliver.

    Having some financial crisis at home, I decided to get some freelance work to fulfil my daily needs. Well, many nights, I used to drink water and sleep. And mind you, my college was in jungle. No kidding, you can look it up and freelancing was a new concept in my country. People didn't trust freelancers.
  • 2
    I visited few clients with help of my cousin. We tried and tried. Didn't work out. I failed.

    I looked up online 99designs was an option. But looking at the competition, I said to myself, 'go to sleep, this is not our piece of cake'. That's where the idea of design studio stumbled upon me (well, I found the idea on internet) and decided to build a website where I can display my hobby work, market it and get some projects.

    Meh! I hated coding and was looking for a partner to build me a website. Didn't work. I got placed in tech giant, didn't want to go for it (yet here after 4.5 years), belongign to business family, I wanted to go for business world. I parked the idea aside for a while and focused on job. Learned a lot. Really.

    Bounced back on idea. Market research, spreading the idea, exploring, getting out of the building and lots of stuff helped me develop myself. World of business taught me more about life than life taught me about business.
  • 2
    I hate bad emotional phase in between (which I will refuse to share) which broke my spine completely. Depression and anxiety. I managed to stand up again. Failures and failures.

    I shared my idea with my 5 year of niece to Google's business head of my country. I shared my idea with my watchman to my 80 year spiritual guru. Feedback, failures and fucked up nights.

    I started to empathise with myself. Started looking at things from different perspective. Things and life evolved. Bat shit crazy learning.

    When I started, I had zero clue of what I was doing, how I was doing and why I was doing. I didn't knew what my product/service was, who my clients/users were, what my business model was?

    Now, I know why I am doing it, how I am doing it and what I am doing. I know my customer segment, I know my market, I know my product, I have a business model.
  • 1
    My project, Prismo laboratory is in field of Art. I am huge music fan and love art at large. It flows in my veins. As an artist and rock/metalhead, I saw how artists globally struggle to earn a bread while shitfucks mint money (refer Trump).

    I realised that while machines work on if/else logic and can do certain logical things, art/creativity is not their cup of tea. Guess what? Even if they do it, we humans can still do it in different way. So when machines take over and you loose your job, you can still live by creating and enjoying art. A coffee making AI machine can make coffee and so humans don't need to innovate or require creativity. Art is timeless and infinite.
  • 1
    While many technology or industrialisation are just trends, art is something which has been in place since cavemen (beat that bitch) and have survived all the way through da Vinci and now Banksy. No recession ever. Nothing to fear or loose. No perfection required. Art is freedom. It sets you free. It let's you express yourself.

    So all these different types of artists like painters, musicians, dancers, singers, anything and everything, struggle with their work, we will help them monetise their content (yes, we will monetise human creativity) while allowing the globe to access art from other part of the world. Best part? This kills piracy as art will be not only available but accessible to all for free and yet artists will be able to earn out of it.
  • 2
    Prismo will be a platform where anybody can share their creative work and start earning without having a need to sell it. No eCommerce or consumerism shitfest here.

    That's Prismo laboratory, a place where we research and experiment with ideas, science and creativity.

    For more, visit www.prismo.net/Prismo
  • 2
    @bigus-dickus How about an Etsy store?

    I am not sure what her idea is in first place.

    @ameware what your idea babes?
  • 1
    @Floydian
    Wow, that's a great story.
    I can tell just by reading it how enlightening it must have been.

    @bigus-dickus
    I'll look into those also, thanks for the suggestion.
  • 1
    @ameware Haha it's a fun ride. I love to grow like a Chinese Bamboo tree.
  • 1
    @Floydian yeah sure y not....
  • 2
    @Floydian
    I enjoy creating handmade jewelry, my friend taught me. Still a beginner though.
    So what we wanna do is to start something together, where we can earn some creativity-driven money by having fun and relaxing while working on them.
    We figured that, at some point, it would be nice to have a virtual space to keep them and show them to people.
    She's been doing this for years, so finding customers won't be a problem.
  • 1
    @ameware "She's been doing this for years"

    Get a lawyer and bind yourself with a strong agreement. And make sure to keep friendship and business separate. I have seen things go horribly wrong once cash starts flowing in. Just a word of caution.

    And I guess, Etsy would a the perfect place to sell this kind of jewellery.

    Also, I would love to see if you don't mind sharing.

    Some resources I found in my archives which might be helpful for you:

    https://theabundantartist.com/

    https://collapsed.co/

    http://autopsy.io/

    Also, I have some legal templates in my drive, so if you tend to use Google, I can share it.
  • 1
    @Floydian
    Very useful links, thanks!
    I haven't uploaded any of my work anywhere just yet, but when I do, I won't mind showing you.
  • 1
    @ameware Sure. Do tag me :)
  • 0
    I am also thinking about starting an online store in a women's fashion niche. Will be selling something like https://mau-fashion.com/replica-han... I think, seems to be a prospective idea. Working on a website now and I want it to be different from hundreds of similar stores out there which turned into a problem. But I am sure that it's a better approach than making a clone of what everyone get used to.
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