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@Codex404 how so? I found that and tri-wing to be quite decent.. never had camming issues with those. I think it's because the bottom of Torx is flat and has 6 surfaces for torque application.. but that wouldn't explain tri-wing of course which is recessed just like Phillips and has only 3 torque application surfaces. Screws sure are weird 😶
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@Condor torx are annoying because when they are used they are also using philips screws in the same device and in my experience while both the torx and philips get dirt in them it is easier to get it out of the philipshead.
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@Codex404 hmm, good point about both of them being used 🤔 one more reason to go exclusively with Torx I guess 🙃 but ehm, can't dirt be removed with just an old toothbrush? I mean you'd need to have something that's very clogged for it to not be possible to remove from either screw heads... Rust on the other hand, a pain in the ass. One of the pans that I'm having in the kitchen has a huge rust buildup in its Phillips screw, and I can't get rid of it 😔
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@Condor ive never had to use torx that much, so our experiences might differ because of it.
And what does torx have that imbus (not sure if thats the english word, let me translate) doesnt?
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@Codex404 mostly increased torque capability. I've recently bought some hex bolts but didn't like them to be honest. Perhaps it's because none of my bits really fit all that well in there.. but they seem to strip out even faster than Phillips. I don't have much experience with hex heads though.
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@Codex404 actually now that I think of it.. most of my furniture uses hex bolts. When I assembled that, I didn't have any camming issues with that either.. I guess that there's not a whole lot of difference between it and Torx then. And I guess that those bolts that I recently purchased are just shit 😅
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@epse it's not by design. It's just a bug that became a feature.
Torx is the best. You can even drive it in an angle with a smaller bit. -
@electrineer and with philips you can use bigger heads than the screw, because the tip is still small.
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@electrineer seriously? That's what I get for believing a professor. But yeah, Torx all the way
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@epse it says in Wikipedia that there's no evidence it was a deliberate feature, and it was only added to the patent in a 1949 refinement.
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@electrineer is torx that old? The first torx I saw was last year...
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@Codex404 talking about phillips camming out
It's actually safer to use a flat head screwdriver bit to screw and unscrew Phillips head screws than the screwdriver bit that's actually designed for it.. because reasons.
Fuck Phillips heads, they're fucking junk. They're quite a decent match for the shit that consumer electronics often is though... But for anything halfway fucking worth it, why don't we use something like Torx or tri-wing already?! Or rather, anything that isn't Phillips or Pozidriv. Anything that doesn't fuck right off when you slightly overtorque it (without stripping the threads) or want to unscrew it.
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fuck phillips screws