Murder I can understand and sometimes even empathize with. Yes, it wasn’t up to you to decide who lives and who doesn’t, but here is something poetic, albeit grim, in having revenge against those who made (the best time of) your life miserable. Yes, you should appear before the court of law, but at the very least you’re still a human being.

But if you’re a school shooter who kills indiscriminately, you don’t deserve the air you breathe. You’re lower than the dirtiest pedophile. I don’t consider you a human at all. I’m against the death penalty, but you should be put down like a rabid animal.

I'm actually heavily into school shooters but that is probably extremely obvious

idk. it's just really cute. and hot.

but then you meet them and they're actually insufferable... sigh. like the to-be school shooters. that always sucks. but I like them as an idea in my head. d'awww. also hot.

need to work on my repression of fear more, grrr 😭

@jestdotty I hope you’re joking. If you aren’t, never comment on my posts again.

@kiki ahhh that's why I never say that out loud... now I remember!

thanks, I guess. 🖕

School shooters are worse than rapists. I know that the comparison is rather disturbing, but with cutting edge medicine, especially psychedelics, there is a slim chance that the harm caused by rape can be undone. There is zero chance that you can undo murder, by definition.
Saying that school shooters are hot is worse than saying that rapists are hot.

@kiki lol I've actually been raped

school shooters is hot because it's a person who didn't lose the ability to defend their boundaries with anger. for someone who has their boundaries violated all the time, it ends up being something they will idealize as a characteristic that was beat out of them, and a characteristic that they desperately want to integrate back into themselves. so it makes school shooters hot

dickhead

also the worst thing about rape is not the rape itself. I've actually been raped a number of times I guess but I didn't know some of them were rape... but the time I was raped and it looked like rape to me I cried for 4 hours and I processed it and it was fine. but what I couldn't process for months was when my rapist was stalking me and inserting himself into my friend groups... and I kept asking him to leave. and my friends defended him. and I revealed he raped me. and then everyone turned on me. that was traumatic. a school shooter would back you though. safety.

@jestdotty I was raped too. I know what it feels like. Killing innocent people is not defending your boundaries. How hard is it to just kill those who bullied you, and not those who didn’t?

@kiki they think those people bullied them

for school shooters that target "innocent people" it's displaced anger

they feel violated, but they repressed their thinking from targeting the correct source of the feeling violated

this often happens when you have Stockholm. it's someone told you you couldn't have certain thoughts. so for example if your parent violates you, and talks you into repression thinking that they were the ones who violated you (ei claiming they do everything for you or some other subversion), then this person needs to "find a new Boogeyman" to associate with the feelings they feel

I repress emotions and until recently never repressed thoughts, so people who are emotional but intellectually fucked I don't have issues with, since I'm basically more competent and can run circles around them because of the lack of thought repression

there is also activity / doing impulse repression. those folks are terrifying... those are the actual "accidental" criminals
to-be school shooters didn't get there yet tho

@jestdotty no. I was bullied in school too, and I know exactly who did it and who didn’t. I still have nightmares about it.

@kiki Stockholm happens when you are a child dependent on your caregiver, and you cannot afford to direct your anger at them... you need them to eat and teach you how to be independent in the world. so you have to do trickery on yourself to survive

then the intellectual target source of the source of bad feelings becomes mangled. you end up not learning how to do it right at all in some instances, and not just to the specific target that violated you

generally when I explain this stuff I know someone well and I can remember where they've done it and show it to them as an experience they've gone through. in this instance you're showing to me that you chose to keep your intellect running as a kid in this instance, but people do not always choose that. if they're trying to protect themselves they'll lose part of their mental self to save their physical self

@jestdotty I already knew your sense of morality was fucked up after I read how you agreed or rationalized what b2plane said about his girlfriends and his experiences at work…
But this takes it to another level.
👏

@Lensflare I think it's called empathy or theory of mind

I don't think I'm justifying. I'm just into understanding others' perspectives because for me the highest order is curiousity

justifying would be if his girlfriend showed up here crying and I told her b2plane can't be blamed and she should shut up and eat shit. justification is when someone rapes you and then tells you you wanna be raped, to try to gaslight you. I do not such things. I just like to understand people and what their universe and experience is like. I don't attack them unless they personally harm me, and even then I'm poor at keeping grudges because I'm too friendly a being

though you are correct that my penchant for understanding can make certain people feel enabled. if I notice them feeling confident and enabled in destructive behaviors due interactions with me I end up telling them that's fucked up and leaving. this hasn't really happened with b2plane as far as I've noticed

@jestdotty how about empathy for the victims?

@Lensflare b2plane's victims? the girls?

I can tell you all about them...

when I was 16 an older dude and I got into a relationship. he was extremely abusive but it made me feel emotions so I loved it. a friend eventually got me out

but one of the things I did in that relationship... I had rootkitted the guy. and I found out he was talking to various girls. like 13 of them. I contacted every one of them and told them about him. one of these girls was 13 actually and the guy was like 19... that was pretty fucked up

you know what happened out of it? nothing 😁
they just ignored me. they told me they didn't believe me if they acknowledged me at all

does it matter? hahaha

actually years later the same guy tried to get with me again. wouldn't leave me alone even though i wasn't interested. I found out HE GOT FUCKING MARRIED while we were a couple... contacted his wife! she actually cared tho

so I think I'm good 😁
plus, I've been cheated on in other instances and all that...