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If you have decided to move out of the dev realm, you will have to start looking for managerial roles either in your current job or future jobs
And Enginnering managerial roles are not all that different. You will have to manage devs who work on things you have been doing or did so far. I don't know if it brings the change you want with respect to the WFO/h situation. It is entirely depending on the employer, their clients, and the line of work -
@asgs It depends on the manager and management style really. There are certainly managers who are still involved in coding, but those who do a lot of it are usually delegating and trusting people.
There are other types of managers who are better at big picture, process, building trust, etc. It takes a lot to properly design a system and trust your team to implement it. This is the first shop I've been at that requires manager code reviews, not just your co-workers.
Coding based management roles have really moved into what's now called "Principal Engineering" which is a big mix or architecture and planning.
I could see a lot of good potential process changes at the place I'm currently at. They are really behind in some ways, and I've worked at a lot of shops big and small. I guess we'll just see where things go.
At the company town hall yesterday, one of the questions asked was about allowing more remote work. The c-suite leaderships mentioned how productivity went down in 2020 when many were working remotely. We're in logistics and that's a relationship business. It's important to have people at terminals talking to the truckers.
Most of the IT staff is fully remote, except for the managers. They're expected to be on-site (I think it's 2 days a week, maybe 3). I did go in yesterday and was reminded of how much I don't like being in the office. They don't even have full cubicals. They have the room for it, but it's all open-plan work spaces.
I was hired on as a senior, with questions on if I'd want to continue on into management. I do want to get out of the development role at some point, and tried to get into management positions at my two previous jobs. One place promoted the youngest junior dev over all of us to manager and brought in an external director. The other job laid me off after three years.
This current shop has a lot of badly engineered, way too small, micro-services. It's a maintenance nightmare and everything they plan just really makes the overall situation worse.
Do I stick it out in the hope of getting into a management position? I'd honestly come back to the office for a year, if that year added manager to my resume. I'm going to stay for at least a year, but do I want to start looking for new work again after that?
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