Everyone always complains about Internet Explorer... but looking at

https://platform-status.mozilla.org/...

Safari looks pretty shit as well

Oh god yes.

Safari is probably worse imo, from a user viewpoint not a developer one.

They don’t even want to follow w3 standard syntax

IE is no longer considered a browser by MS. They now consider it a "backwards compatability solution" for legacy systems, and they no longer provide updates or support for IE. The company I work for is pushing the last application that requires Java for the browser out the door, and replacing it with a new VPN that doesn't rely on Java. Edge, Chrome, and Firefox are now our choice for browsers.

@FrodoSwaggins What's surprising is the amount of money pumped into Apple compared to the quality of their most widely used software.

People care about Safari?
In all my years I’ve only ever had 2 issues I can remember with Safari without actually doing any testing with it (end customers complained 🤷‍♂️)
Plus I think you’ll find the market share for Safari is a lot less the IE, which is why IE gets a lot of heat. It’s just as bad for most things but has always had a larger user share.

As for Safari issues, 1 was a Js Animation being sloppy, the other was when retina displays hit the market and my viewports didn’t know how to react and shit went everywhere 😂

Remember the good old days when everybody was like all hail safari, that's why they started publishing safari for windows aswell:))

🤷‍♂️ this honestly doesn’t surprise me much, and it makes total sense when you think about it.

So long as it supports the basics of things and can render a website, the fancier, newer features / slightly out there features are going to take a back seat... why?

Apps.

Remember early iOS days? Apple invested heavily in safari, releasing iOS style components for the web, looking into webapp tech... and then native apps happened.

I have to say, I’m not mad. I (personally) don’t see the web in its current incarnation being a thing for too long, as we migrate to service APIs, smart systems for working across service boundaries and apps / digital assistants taking over.

I think it’s the route Apple have been exploring a while too.

🤷‍♂️

The cynic in me says Google only pursues web tech like mad because it gives them additional avenues for snooping, ad delivery and industry saturation.