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alkuzad
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Have you noticed that mac users rarely use full screen mode? Its so hard to use that they just leave half sized windows, its so annoying when I have to ask every time if they can make it bigger

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  • 2
    You mean half screen without anything on the side? o.o
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    You've probably met a colleague of mine that'd rather scroll in his spreadsheet than put it fullscreen. It kills me on the inside.
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    Linux and Mac user. I don't like anything to be fullscreen, except maybe sometimes a video.

    I even run games windowed.
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    I cannot stand this. Thank you for noticing.
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    You are right. It is a completly unintuitive feature. The usage is shitty and the approach prevents side by side view of different windows.
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    Yes I have, and even in fullscreen, there still is some wasted space around the docker
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    Pretty sure full screen creates a new workspace which makes hiding window under it impossible.
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    wait what the fuck are y’all talking about, if you run full screen, it does become another space but you can quickly swipe to the side to change from one to another or swipe up or down to get a list of not just what’s open but an option to stack two fullscreen workspaces side by side.

    My laptop is usually set up in one of these two modes while my big monitor i usually just have multiple windows put together in one workspace like a tiling window would, which is another thing fairly simple to arrange because the edges will snap to each other when close together.
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    Really fuck that swiping feature. I hate the look and feel of fullscreen on mac.
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    You don’t necessarily need full screen either, in numbers for instance you can fully navigate and also zoom in and out very quickly by just the multitouch pad. Same with the way the window manager works in general, it’s set up specifically for use with the track pad. Which is good because while a lot of “multi-platform” software will get most of the trackpad controls worked out, they won’t make sure that it runs properly in fullscreen mode and so you find yourself stretching them out manually on the general desktop. That not to say certain thing aren’t flawed with os x but those really aren’t the things i would say were.
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    the only thing i’ve found aggravating about full screen is that the top bar hides and when you go to click up there you have to give it a second to adjust, otherwise you end up clicking above it. High sierra seems to have made this worse because now for some reason you have to click a blank space on the top bar to get the thing to change focus when running dual monitors. The regular desktop mode has the the latter bug in it as well though. You want to talk about aggravating, wait til you start experiencing that one. I can’t get mojave’s on my maching(9yrs old) so lately ive been thinking reverting back to a previous version because of it.
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    Yeah, contrary to what fan boys claimed, window management on macOS is appalling and has been surpassed by Windows since Win7. "Good artist copy, great artists steal", cool, steal snap-to-edge please. Well, at least there are tools that do this.
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    @VaderNT and so what does that say about android 🤔

    Windows can burn in hell, they’ve had plenty of chances with me. I’d rather revert back to a blue dos-like menu than have the goddamn machine thing crash every ten fucking minutes.
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    @M1sf3t haha you're right, even Android has multi window functionality nowadays.

    Sorry to hear Windows crashes so often for you. Funnily my macOS machines crashed more often than my Windows machines, so there's still hope. 😉
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    @VaderNT i might be going on dated knowledge, i’ve been using the same mac since 2010. but i’ve been using windows since the days you booted it up from dos which, something which 7 year old me never could quite get my brain wrapped around a point to. Some of that could’ve been the way dad configured it though, you could launch the same programs from dos and it took have the time to do that than it did to first boot windows first.
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    Also, since the system APIs are available, there are some really outstanding pieces of software for sizing windows and saving sizing and positioning to be restored with simple keystrokes. Devoting a full workspace to an app is not really a common use case, at least for me.
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    I still lost about what is this rant about, but I just have one thing to say: spectacle ftw xD
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    First thing I installed after using macos the first time was spectacle which enables window snapping side by side with shortcuts.
    I haven't used macs workspaces ever since
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    @smb26 @ShotgunSurgeon i might have to look into this specticle 🧐
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    @M1sf3t I came from windows where I used to win key + arrow to put windows side by side. Spectacle allows you to do the same on Mac
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    @smb26 i don’t even remember windows doing that 😅

    generally i just create a workspace for each workflow that i need and pin the app windows to the workspace so they open in the same spot every time. then i just navigate to the space i need to use when i need it. full screen is generally reserved for video and split screen when i don’t have second monitor. i’m working with 13in though
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    @smb26 Spectacle ftw, but it's still funny/scary that you need 3rd-party app to FUCKING MAXIMISE A WINDOW
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    @M1sf3t oh yes, the good old times. :) The first Windows machine I owned myself ran Win 98 SE. Boy, was that crash-happy. Double clicking .wav files was playing russian roulette, about one in four times I'd get a bluescreen. And Worms 2 came with *a lot of* .wav files...
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    @VaderNT ...this man knows my frustrations
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    @Taqriaqsuk its really just a matter of getting used to the track pad. Generally when I do shit on mine, i have a mouse in my right hand and Im swiping the track pad on the laptop with my left. Stuff I just need to look at and don't need the top bar for, I run full screen on my 13" display. The software Im working with has its on workspace on my 30 inch monitor, along with a finder window, terminal, etc, needed to go along with it, all pinned in place so all I have to do is launch them. When I need do something else I just swipe over to change workspaces.
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    @bahua IDE should be full screen always
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    @M1sf3t So you want to tell me, that I have to use an overpriced interface to compensate the flaws of the OS I am using? That is something I am not willing to do.
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    @Ushandelukka compensate? Thats what it was set up to do. If your using a mouse and you don't want to touch the track pad you can use alt and the directional keys to select the workspace you want. The apple mouse probably even has its own compensation for the trackpad but I've never tried one so i wouldn't know.

    As far as the hidden menu bar in full screen mode idk wtf is up with it, its been like that for the past two upgrades. I thought it had been a setting on my original os and at the time it had worked, but when I looked to turn it off I couldn't find an option. Its probably worth noting that I skipped several upgrades so its even possible thats specific to my machine.

    Just about everything is hotkeyed so I rarely need to use it and if its that important i just add another workspace and expand it to the size i need there. All that takes is just me swiping up and hitting the plus button in mission control
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    @alkuzad

    Nah, I keep xterm/vim windowed. :)
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    @bahua vim is not an IDE (second flamewar start ;p), i was thinking more of pycharm, phpstorm or visual studio. Text editors like vim, sublime text or texmate are different story.
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    @alkuzad

    I know. You didn't need to explain.
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