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I do agree that some things are vague, I once spent 4 hours to figure out a circular serialization issue just like you. After that it made sense why my server crashed with a simple var_dump($person);
I learned Symfony by working on an existing project, but whenever I start my own project I usually copy paste most of the config since I find it hard to fine otherwise
Also, validators and constraints had me in a documentation loop
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Never tried Symfony, but PHP itself can be quite the mess. During my last days of PHP I used Laravel a lot. It simplifies things, though as with any framework there is a level of abstraction that you have to get by with.
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dmonkey21956y@alexbrooklyn Nothing to say about DI. It works, and it works great. Same for general performance. But still, I'm thinking to ignore Sf and do something else 😂
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@ScriptCoded agreed, luckily Symfony provides filter, filesystem and finder classes that abstract the horrible php functions away
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@alexbrooklyn Seems nice, but I'm afraid I've left PHP behind me for the most part. Though if ever have to start i new PHP project I'll look into it for sure.
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dmoa4196yI’m amazed you are a ‘book person’. I find making projects when learning from scratch really helps me!
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dmonkey21956y@dmoa Me too, but when I face a problem I prefer having some paper that explains things in detail. Sone documentations are detailed enough, other just are not.
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Maybe you could look into Laravel?
It relies on Symfony quite a bit without being so hard to learn.
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This is yet another rant about php.
But I'll put my hands on first: I'm less than a junior and I'm looking for a backend language to learn.
So far I've been looking at php with Symfony because it's been used where I work.
Is it my impression or Symfony somehow overcomplicates everything? Like I don't know, for any stupid thing I get stucked (like yesterday, spent two hours on a circular reference problem with serialization).
Also, I don't like it's documentation. I am a book person, meaning that I need pages of text explaining how the framework (or whatever) works in a precise order.
Symfony's docs are like a graph: you often have no idea where you are or "what comes next".
Also, I feel like every page makes you just copy-paste everything without explaining very much what's happening under the hood.
I know there is a cookbook, but it's pretty outdated (like it's at version 3 or 2.7, I don't remember).
Is it just me? Do other Symfony developers experienced the same?
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