I'm trying out Atom coming from VSCode and Android Studio.

Where's the integrated terminal?
You have to download an extension.

How do you add breakpoints?
There's an extension for that

How can I quicky find/go to files?
...extension

But it has Git integration! Phewww that's a relief, I have now idea how to write `git add .` without a terminal

Atom is a text editor. VSCode has supplanted it due to being the same visual appeal, backed by a significantly better engineering team.

Both are text editors. Not IDEs. You're expecting IDE features from mere text editors.

VS Code has blown Atom out of the water for quite some time.

@iiii agreed, even with a lot of cool extensions it will not supplant something like a full blown VS

@AleCx04
I fully expect vscode to get stabbed in the back in the not too distant future. Visual Studio is losing marketshare to it, the enteprise edition is now $6k for the first year (it definitely doesn't deliver $6k worth of value), and it's pretty clear it's about to be a return of the old way.

The keynote for netconf pretty much confirmed all my fears of the direction for MS and dotnet. It was just waxing nostalgic about the old days, a demo of winforms in a browser and a restatement that they were sorry they cheated on enteprise wife with free software hussies and that's all I'm the past now.

@SortOfTested hold up, what is bad about the current direction of dotnet?? i am severely interested in this. About the one thing i have heard it came from my dba being sad that they seem to not have any interest in making vb.net a first class citizen of dotnet as they are with c#(not a big issue for me really)

@AleCx04
It's focusing on the enteprise customer base and legacy virtue signaling at the expense of the open source community (aka, the people that brought dotnet back from the dead). The current strategy slows down release cycles, prioritizes windows tooling and pushes the mono platform approach (Blazor, razor, wsl) at the expense of quality. The new Visual Studio skus cost more, and exclude testing capabilities from everything except the enterprise offering. Open source wrote half that tooling and they're walling off the integration for profit. Once again, any OS other than windows is a second class citizen.

It's like Scott and the others at MS forgot that the money is in cloud infra, and the only reason they got where they are was the efforts of the dotnet core community on *nix making that a reality. If they alienate us, it'll be a second alt.net exodus and in three years time they'll have lost to AWS utterly. The recent injection of legions of low-cost boot camp grads won't save them or drive innovation.

@SortOfTested link to the keynote?

@iiii
https://youtu.be/o-esVzL3YLI

@SortOfTested thanks

They are both Microsoft. They own GitHub and NPM now too, right? Sounds like we’re going to have a lot of fun!

Why move down to Atom? If you don’t like. VScode, then why not sublime or something?

@SortOfTested this just makes the .net platform sound shitty and unreliable tbh

@AleCx04
It will be if Microsoft shits the bed. Right now it's in the top 10 on techempower benchmarks. It'd be really nice if they didn't allow enteprise concerns to shit the bed.