When I point out something you did wrong. I do not care about the things you did right in the past year.

You did something wrong and that needs to be fixed. I do not care about how hard you tried, I just need it to be right. I'm not attacking you as a person I'm complaining about the end result being not good enough.

Woah

@burswag to hard? Do not mean it that hard. I just get so frustated.

If I ask someone to do one thing and are counting on that. You can do something else really good. But it wont help getting the first thing done. No matter how hard you worked on doing the other thing.

I'm not sure you're making your point as you intend - at least I hope not. Sounds like people are, to you, only as good as their mistakes. Everyone - no matter how super, excellent or fantastic - will make errors. Yes, they will need told, but how you tell them (and only if they don't already know it!) will make all the difference. You also can't simply discard otherwise good work over a period of time.

@samk No people are not their mistakes or their succes. When you are doing a job you are trying to get something done.

If you fail at the task. Talking about what you did right will not help. The thing that went wrong needs to be fixed. So the Job can be a succes. It has nothing to do with the person or their intend. Something went wrong, it does not matter who's fault it is. It does not matter that you intended to do it right. It does not matter what went right. There is a problem that needs a solution.

@aronmik Do you try to offer help or suggest a solution? It seems that it's very important for this problem to be resolved immediately, so maybe it would be good for all of you guys to come up with a solution.

@aronmik Yes, I accept all that. But how you handle and communicate in those situations can have a dramatic impact on the atmosphere and mood of your team.

The feeling I get from reading this thread is that I possibly wouldn't enjoy being in your team at times when there are problems. Too much emphasis on the negatives and no acknowledgement of jobs well done. That's extremely demotivating.

I may be misunderstanding you, but just being honest.

@burswag in this instance something went wrong and the person kept telling about none related stuff that went right.

It went a bit like. You forgot to make a functional design for the feature and did not have it signed off by the cliënt. Yes but I made one for the last feature.

And yes that is true, but it help nobody with fixing the missing functions in this feature. Its adding none related info to look better.

When the issue of how good you are. This has nothing to do with it, and I do not doubt his skills. And if I do thats on me. I'm the one asking someone to do a job. If I ask you to do something you cannot do, I made a mistake in asigning the task without proper guidance.

This is just something that needs to be spotted and fixed before it gets deployed. So I get annoyed when someone starts defending themself when there is no need and this time is better spend on fixing it.

@samk Yeah, maybe. Its the defending when no defence is needed that gets me ranting.

Why would pointing out what went wrong and needs to be done. Seen as an personal thing? Things go wrong, no matter what.

If you dumb it down its like. Someone asks me to paint a wall blue. I misheared and paint the wall green. So that sucks because I painted the wall the wrong color and it needs to be done again.

I would like to be told that I need to paint the wall again. Not be told that I did a good job on painting it blue.

I would probably even see it as a bit of an insult. Because by telling me I did a good job you create the impression that me doing a bad job is also a likely option. In my mind giving compliments is something for things that are hard to do. Not for doing the job you get hired to do.

You compliment a baby on doing his first steps. You do not compliment every adult on standing up and walking.

@aronmik Right - I follow you now. I know people like that too. Their default position in the face of any criticism is defence. But we all have to be open to criticism, especially when - as your situation suggests - it is deserved. I guess it's about adopting the right tone and approach for the specific individual - the true art of man-management!!

@samk yeah, luckly I almost never has to manage. Not my thing xD I'm the lets get shit done kinda person.

If you wanne have fun, complain, or whatever I'm always up for grabbing some drinks after work ;) but when shits needs to get done shit needs to get done.