Fuck these super social media instagram influencer developers telling everyone watching their story that "everyone can be a programmer.". You can't. It's not only about syntax and a run button.

Even if it is only about syntax, not for all. I don't know about run buttons. It has roughly 50% pass rate

What is it about then?

@nitwhiz probelm solving, being able to track down bugs. I guess my rant was a bit more catchy than i men too

Run random code until specs pass. 🤷🏻‍♀️

@F1973
Here's a problem they should ask the students:

How many white hat junior kids can make millions before the sun total of millions runs out? If 3M kids enroll in white hat junior, what is the most reasonable distribution of potential earnings if they all have equal skills?

[insert akbar here]

What’s up with these learn to code stories where (I’m making this up but you’ve heard Cinderella stories like this) someone without any degree flipping burgers at Burger King spends 3 months learning to code and lands a good job in less than a month? These things drive me crazy. I went through 4 years getting a BS in computer science, a grad certificate and had to struggle for months to get my first dev job that paid me pebbles. I went through two entry level jobs before I got one that paid really well and during that time I had to bust my ass on object oriented principals, best practices and used leetcode to keep the algorithms strong. Where do these “I have a 90 IQ and shoveled shit before I learned to code in 3 months and got a great job” people come from? Ok if they’re brilliant geniuses who can learn things blazingly quickly that I get...

They are mostly web developers, or python developers, they make cool-looking stuff.

@theabbie sorry, youre referring to my post? Yeah they make cool looking stuff but not cool looking code right? Companies want the cool stuff, like react. It was fun at first, but after I had to juggle with keeping track of state while writing a simple app it was a pain in the ass, and redux was a pain in the ass with having to write hundreds of lines of code just to solve the tiny issues I was having. Plus i hate CSS, it’s boring and you have to type until your fingers bleed. I have ADHD and I can’t be bothered to do repetitive dull tasks but sadly react is repetitive and dull. But it’s the pet bunny that the industry coddles so i have to hug it while grinding my teeth

@d-fanelli Not referring to your post, but yeah, that's right

@theabbie that’s ok! At least we see eye to eye

@F1973 what haha, welll... sad that my parents didn't sent me to theses companies😔

I could be rich now😔😔

I actually have the exact opposite opinion from you. Because programming isn't about syntax and run buttons it's something we can all do. We're all human, we all have a brain wired roughly the same, so not the person is the problem but his choices

I’m not against it tbh, bigger pool of people to pick from imo as long as they can show me some of their work what do I care what route they took.

most of them only care about UI/UX though, try get anyone that’s done it the Instagram route to do anything on the backend I strongly suspect (no evidence just gut feeling) they won’t be able to. Oh well as long as they can make my backend services look pretty I don’t mind.

They also aren’t getting the bullshit lie salaries that these guys make up “get paid $500000 a year by learning react” - will we fuck pay you that, maybe if you actually wrote react but not if you just know it

@daarkfall I'm not talking about hte ones who just show what they do(UX design etc). I wouldn't even care if they stated that everyone can learn to code. But what most of them just don't talk about are topics that go beyond just writing code like understanding the background on how to solve certain problems(Which often requires a specific type of creativity). How to structure the code. How to structure the project your working on in order for you to be able to continue working on it for 2 years without being required to rwewrite the whole application at a certain point in time. And of course how to write code when working together with other people.

@ScaryException totally with you man, they don’t learn architecture they learn scripting (at best). Agreed if you followed their methodology it will be a hot mess of technical debt

@daarkfall yeah that's what i'm talking about. I think the message of my post was a bit misleading.