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JordanG
3y

First time seeing software charging me to not update from Docker

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  • 6
    I watched dockercon yesterday.
    It looks like this company is dead.

    Edit:
    Looks more like blocker then docker right now.
  • 2
    @vane

    Anything in particular makes you think that? (I'm too lazy to watch it, and I'm looking for the tl;dr)
  • 4
    WTF is docker pro? Isn't docker open source?
  • 2
    @vigidis Jesus.

    The builds are in most repos, and also on snap. If they remove them there's going to be an uproar.
  • 6
    Learn to use linux containers (basically just namespaces and cgroups) without the Docker overhead.
  • 2
    @Oktokolo I'm familiar with FreeBSD Jails. Can't be too far removed from them.
  • 3
    @Oktokolo Where do I start?
  • 0
    @homo-lorens
    Read up on Linux namespaces and cgroups.
  • 2
    @lungdart
    Containers/jails work entirely different (and way more complex, but also way more fine grained) on Linux.
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  • 3
    @lungdart there was nothing new, their announcements consisted mainly trust our certified docker images and stuff and most of people speaking were some newbies.
    They hope for enterprise but got nothing to offer except cdn.

    They’re not offering anything for developers as they promised, their innovation is 0 so they will just eat founding money and VC would sell them to aws or some corporate for pennies.
  • 1
    Its time to switch tech already ... Wow
  • 1
    This is so unbelievably fucked up. Its almost as bad as forced Windows updates. Okay, its about the same.
  • 2
    Soooo.... Hurray for good-ol virtual machines! Qemu-kvm ftw!
  • 2
    @Oktokolo Yeah, learn to use namespaces and cgroups and then teach everyone to use them so they can spin up your app. Docker solves a problem beyond isolation, don't be this nihilistic.
  • 2
    @lungdart yes but they have paid services like security scans on image layers and private repo. They had some other stuff too for enterprise but some that in 2019. Unfortunately monetising is hard while, they do deserve the income IMO. Look at everyone bitching while they use it for free for years while the ones making shit possible are struggling.
  • 3
    @hjk101 And if they go bankrupt or get bought up by Google their software vanishes. It's just not sustainable to depend on proprietary software that isn't built by one of the top 30-100 companies. Everyone else will either grow into the top club, be bought up and their product canceled or driven into the ground by the giants or fail to produce growth and therefore go bankrupt within a decade.
  • 0
    @datablitz7
    Other people interested in ways to distribute applications, where also interested in package managers...
    No, docker doesn't solve the problem of application distribution - because that includes the problem of keeping applications up to date.

    The countless package managers used by linux distributions do solve that problem though...
  • 1
    @Oktokolo Now I'm confused. Now you are talking about end user applications? Anyway, keeping up to date is another thing that docker can help with (tags), apart from the dependency/requirement packaging and portability. Feel free to use whatever works for you though.
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