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Sounds like we can look forward to some good rants. Good luck!
achaayan853yOn the brighter side, most of you guys will be friends forever - pressure has a way of bonding people, especially of the same age group 👍
Atlas7643yTime to shine!
This was my first job. My only advice is to not stay too long. Get a year or two under your belt and find somewhere with people you can learn from. It's ridiculous how much difference it makes
@linux-colonel you, i have a question. I am currently 2 years in. I got my permanent contract (basically it hard to fire anyone after this happens in my country) so i am sitting solid. Job isn't too bad, making games and apps. But the pay is rather low (300€ less then the low average of the country/education but still 200€ above minimum wage)
But in programming sense i am the most knowledgeable on my team, and all i do is teach myself on the internet. (c# btw)
I can go anywhere else, get a normal programming job, have to deal with probably less store submition shite and non programming related nonsense, get 300€ raise as a minimum. And probably get more experienced people above me to learn more/better.
Is it worth it? I would probably be bored to death if it is a crappy software pack i get to work on, but still.
I'm pretty sure I've been in your exact situation. I was the best dev in my first job (they made me lead with only a couple years' experience), but I knew I didn't know enough.
For me, reading up by myself was fine to a point, but how could I read about stuff I didn't know existed? That was what made me get out of my comfort zone and find a new job. Sadly, the next job sucked and I left that quickly. I'm now in a place where I'm surrounded by people who are far more experienced than me, and I couldn't be happier. Sure, I feel like I don't belong there sometimes, but that's just normal insecurities when going from the top to the bottom.
When I think back to when I left my first job, I can't imagine how I would know what I do now, if I hadn't left.
For me, it was definitely worth leaving.
@linux-colonel i have issues that i know there are thing i want to learn and properly use. But simple games rarely call for any of them so i am not getting the experience with my theory teaching (and after work hours i have little energy to pursuit any side projects even though i want to)
What is it you learned that you didn't at your old job? Anything coherent you can list? Any skills besides programming alone? (Managing, refactoring properly, unit tests?)
I'll list a few things, but I'll probably miss out loads!
RESTful webservice design
Micro services architecture
Web development (unfortunately :P)
They're the main things I can remember.
Oh, I did also learn how not to build an application from my second company. That's a very valuable lesson to learn
TehWardy113ySounds like a tpyical Management strategy from a company that under values its IT assets.
Good luck getting shat on there!