Intel: our new 12th gen CPU beats Ryzen in gaming!
Also Intel: benchmarks on a buggy version of Windows 11 that takes a big performance hit on Ryzen.

Yeah, Intel... you and your benchmarks. It's just so ridiculous.

@jespersh Yeah Intel got really lucky with the time. Makes me wonder how much luck was involved, given that Intel has always been shady AF.

They should just round up the marketing teams of all these companies and have them collectively sued. They can make even genuinely good parts (eg. Core i5 11400F) look shady.

Going to order an Alder Lake processor anyway, I really want to play with Thread Director and try some asymmetric stuff out (I had a lot of fun with that on both my M1 Mac and Snapdragon 888 board). Would be interesting to see how Intel's asymmetric implementation stacks up with people who've been doing it forever.

They used to use an Intel sourced library for benchmarks years ago. The library was optimized only for Intel processors. So Intel always looked better. Sounds like same old shit from Intel.

Intel was getting benchmark buffed for a long time... it's how they have survived for this long.

@PonySlaystation I remember how Intel manipulated numbers to "show" that an 80286 was faster than a 68000 at the same clock speed, which was totally bogus. In reality, it took a 12 MHz 80286 to match an 8 MHz 68000.

Looks like they delivered (and so did Apple)

@RememberMe Well... gobbling up 250W to marginally beat a 140W Ryzen from half a year ago in some of the benchmarks isn't really taking back the crown. It's a desperate marketing ploy just as you'd expect from Intel.

Where the thread count is really needed, the 12900K still clearly loses out to the 5950X, e.g. Stockfish 13 as tested by Phoronix.

The 12900K is disappointing, given that they're now on an equal node as per Intel's claims.

Also, no Linux support for the thread director, not even patches as of now. Can't be lack of manpower, given Intel's size.

What could be interesting would be the 12400K to attack the low-end where AMD doesn't have any offers right now, and competing on price, which Intel actually does with its inferior tech.

@jespersh I'd go for the large Noctua double tower cooler. Though I wouldn't buy Intel in the first place, of course.

@Fast-Nop the i9s aren't the interesting parts, they're basically useless for most people and Intel essentially stuffs as much silicon as possible into a box to cater to that minuscule fraction of people who will spend anything for top performance. It's deliberately trading off a lot of efficiency for diminishing performance gains. In large scale chips Intel has far more interesting things than an i9 (Agilex, Tofino, IPU, etc. for example).

I'm more interested in the i5s and little cores. 12600k looks really nice.

How good is the simple benchmark in CPU-ID?

My i7 seems to be beating some i9s and even thread ripper in per core performance.