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Lexter11723yBe a good guy, find a good girl. Be an ass, find an assy. It is simple as that.
Sometimes, good girls like assholes. They will learn for sure man. But you'll already be engaged to a good girl. -
they are not attracted to just you apparently, or you are in wrong assumption that you're a kind person.
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https://xkcd.com/1325/
Title text: Perhaps you need a crash course in taking hints. Here's your first lesson: We're not actually walking somewhere together; I'm trying to leave this conversation and you're following me.
"Rejection" published under CC BY-ND 2.5 by Randall Munroe. -
@theabbie How did you know that I'm not a good person I know myself better than you although I can understand what are you trying to say here but you have to accept that women's have really weird taste in terms of choosing a men.
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@Fast-Nop I don't think so, you are comparing weakness to kindness but in reality they both are really different things.
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@darksideofyay I have a one question for you, on one hand you have a person who like to sleep with multiple girls and like to be with many girls and treat her like an object although he had a girl already these are couple of thing that I know about that person and on the other hand you have a boy that who has crush on her from childhood and really like her so which person would you choose to date?
BTW I'm talking about my school crush :D -
@priyanshu-zeon maybe she just likes the d 🤷
it just annoys me when guys frame it like it's one or the other. if you're concerned about her well being, I still see no reason why she would date you. maybe you're not her type, maybe it never crossed her mind. did you ever ask her out? idk.
the point is, rejection sucks, but you're still not entitled to her just because you feel like it. you'll find another girl -
@priyanshu-zeon The other guy has better odds than you because he obviously has options who even line up for him while you don't have any. Him not giving a shit shows that he can afford to do so while you caring shows that you can't.
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if she knows the guy is not emotionally available and it's just sex they want, i don't see the harm. if she knows what he's like and wants a relationship, she's read too much fanfic
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Hazarth95063yIt's not assholes that girls like, they (like everyone in the entire ducking world) are just looking for stability in this madness that we call life.
If you spend your time by being upset on the Internet posting non-sense like "girls only like bad boys" then you're clearly not confident enough in your own stability, so how could you provide it to another?
Trust me, women aren't attracted to something as simple as being an asshole, sure, if you're talking about teens then it can be all kinds of messed up and priorities are fucked for everyone while growing up, but ultimately they are just as complex as you and I end they have their own worries, unsecurities, interests, likes and dislikes... We're all in this together and the sooner you stop victimizing yourself and move on with your own life the sooner someone will be interested to get to know you, man or woman, friend or soulmate. -
@Hazarth One of them gets laid, the other doesn't. It's pretty obvious which behaviour set is desirable and which isn't. Nice guys finish last, nothing new.
The three key factors are dominance, social status, and looks - in that order. That's why just being an asshole isn't ideal, although still somewhat better than being nice, because it doesn't achieve that much for the social status. -
@Fast-Nop I do disagree with that statement. It’s way too black and white. While I may have the d people come back for and the looks to attract, but dominance and social status? Hell to the nope. I have seen so many much more dominant males with higher social status struggle to ”score” when I never had any issues. I was described (by others than me) ”nice guy”, among many other descriptions.
Things just don’t work as if all girls where made from the same cloth. Actually, just stop thinking of people as genders. We are people, diverse in our backgrounds, traumas, and whatever makes us tick in each situation. Sure, biology comes into play as well, but it’s a blatant lie to state that nice guys finish last, or have any less of a chance than ”bad boys”.
I’m so triggered. And for fuck’s sake people, stop playing the victim! (Oh, and OP, pining over your childhood crush could be considered just plain creepy, at least from the perspective of that crush of yours) -
Hazarth95063y@Fast-Nop imo arguably the only key factors are looks for initial contact and not being an annoying self-absorbed dick during conversation. Most women with an average intelligence aren't going to sweat your social status nor how dominant you are.
You obviously shouldn't be a fucking wuss but you also don't have to act like some sort of alpha either. Assertivity is way sexier than both aggressivity and submissivity.
I really think we should stop generalizing men and women like this though because It's only creating a bigger divide between us. There's no magical way to *understand* women or men. That's why it makes for such a great comedy, we should laugh at our perceived differences knowing well that we're both mostly the same. You have hobbies, she has hobbies, you dislike people, she deslikes people, you take a shit, she takes a shit.
It's just my opinion, but I think as men, we spend way too much time agonizing over what women want and with that we actively fuck our chances -
@100110111 Well, the OP's situation perfectly confirms that. In general, nice guys are not overly attractive because they lack in the "dominance" department and hence also in "social status". While dominance isn't sufficient, it's a necessary condition.
Not giving a fuck indicates value, caring sends the opposite signal. Just what the OP is experiencing. The OP was asking why such a careless behaviour scores, and I answered that. -
@Hazarth That's the point - dominant men don't agonise over that in the first place. And of course social status is important - what do you think why rock stars always get laid at their concerts if they want to? Certainly not because they're nice, caring people. :-)
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@Fast-Nop OP’s case is an isolated case, as is every other one. Also, they may just be a creep. Don’t know them, can’t tell.
”Not giving a fuck indicates value, caring sends the opposite signal” … value? What value? You’re not really making sense here..
Anyways, I continue to disagree that ”dominance” or ”social status” are in any way or form *necessary*. They may affect the development of the situation positively, but equally they may not, or even could decrease the value of the ”dominant” individual in the eyes of representatives of the opposite gender.
That being said, I have made an observation when it comes to my generation: the importance of ”dominance” and ”social status” wanes when people get older, and the ”nice guys” ”win” more easily by the time people are in their late 20s. -
@100110111 Value in terms of being sought after. Remember, one gets laid, the other doesn't. One has value, the other doesn't.
And yeah, of course nice guys "win" once they get older - they're better suited as providers. The problem is what they're going to win. What's even worse than a single mom is early 30s, single, no kids, and baby rabies. Killer combo. :-) -
Hazarth95063y@Fast-Nop I'm not a dominant men and I don't agonize over it either. I used to when I was a teen but I understood that it doesn't matter. So you can say that "dominant" men might have a head start for something we need to figure out first, but that doesn't mean you *need* to be or become in any way dominant to interest a woman either. causation and correlation, you know the drift.
Also rock stars getting laid isn't necessarily about social status, it's a wet dream of every person. You know the effect where people get unreasonably attached to youtubers despite the youtubers not even knowing these people personally? It's exactly like that with all popular public figures. We just idealize them due to various reasons and want our dreams to come true through them. And sometimes it's just mindless fun because sex rocks! but the social status is the lesser factor in that example. It has more to do with this weird media stockholm syndrome human often show -
Hazarth95063y@100110111 I can confirm the same observation. As both parties get older they start looking for completely different values. Age and gained intelligence and experience are all the great equalizer.
The only major condition left seem to be to not get blocked by your own insecurities and emotions. If you still feel like a victim in your mid-20s then it's about high time to get your priorities in order. -
@Fast-Nop … seriously dude, black and white much? And… I don’t even know what’s the right word. Dated?
Btw, rock stars aren’t the ones getting laid on tours. Trust me, I made a career of over a decade working on tours with rock stars. I got laid much more than the stars themselves.
Single, no kids, and baby rabies? That’s late 30s nowadays, mate ;) It’s not the 60s or 70s…
I’m done arguing with you though. I had two points to begin with: first, what makes women choose one potential partner (whether one-night or long term) over another is most definitely not as black and white as you portray it. Second, OP playing the victim is pathetic, and the reason they are not hooking up with their childhood crush is most likely not due to nice guy vs bad boy dichotomy, but rather just them not being the crushes type - at least not in this particular stage of their life. Move on. -
@Fast-Nop i do disagree because of the relationship I'm in. my bf is the long relationship type and he's nice, but he's confident and charming while still being a certified nerd. so I really don't think good guys make it last.
you guys are catastrophizing a bit, things are not that bad out there -
hjk10156963y@priyanshu-zeon based on your responding comment to @theabbie you already lose points with me.
Read it again there's a OR in there.
To be honest the comment was a bit harsh and can use a series of extra ORs but you did jump on it like a personal attack. While your rant can easily be taken as an attack on women's judgment as the stated xkcd article. -
Just conduct a survey of 1000 women of all ages from all around the world, if atleast 501 of them agree to date a bozo, I will agree.
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hjk10156963y@aaronswartz a language construct that denotes options. As in either or:
Them bitches be like; I can either swipe left OR right on this asshole. -
hjk10156963y@aaronswartz last comment was just kidding. It's not an abbreviation but indeed emphasis and noted as often seen in boolean logic
https://w3schools.com/sql/... -
@Fast-Nop That assumes your options guy *can* care. Assholes are that for a reason; and the reason is usually that they can't be anything else.
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@hardCoding Actually not - all that counts is that he doesn't have to. Also, being an asshole is like being dumb in that it's no problem for that person.
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