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Worst collab was in bootcamp. Group projects always suck because there’s always someone not pulling their weight. In my case it felt like everyone was terrible. My only regret was not putting a specific person on my “don’t want to collab” list when groups were being assigned. That probably would have saved me from so much stress.

One person in my group didn’t know how to start up the project…two weeks into us working on it. She even had the privilege of having an outside mentor. Mentor didn’t know how to work the project either—but let’s be real, that’s not the mentor’s responsibility. She forgot she needed to run npm install. We were six months into this bootcamp and she forgot one of the simplest commands.

Another person was just a follower and couldn’t think for himself. He was so faithful to another teammate’s choices and direction that I wondered if they were screwing each other. Other teammate could be absolutely (and destructively) wrong and he would defend her as “well she’s taking initiative and showing leadership.” It wasn’t leadership, it was bullying. They weren’t dating/screwing, but I did suspect he liked to be controlled/dominated by “strong”women.

The “strong” woman teammate is someone I suspect of being the spawn of Satan. You were only useful to her if you agreed with her or could help her. If you gave her any sort of pushback, she’d turn on you. I think she wanted me to be both her parent and her scapegoat for the sketchy things she wanted to do. She pulled a lot of bullshit and tried to blame everything on me. Seriously, she would invest a lot of time in stupid things like getting me to agree to use bitmoji for team pics; I just wanted to check with the bootcamp first because they might have an unwritten rule about using your real face for presentations so guests know who you are. I had to get the bootcamp staff to support me because she was out of control. She tried to say that I was sabotaging the group from day one. The staff explained to her how her story of me “sabotaging” the group doesn’t add up. She backed down a little but she’d still try to screw me over through the remainder of the project.

There was one dude who was alright. He was the keep your head down type. Spawn of Satan would be on his ass about being late to class and he’d just stare at her stoically. He was a husband and a dad so he was choosing how to expend his energy. I don’t like people being late either, but show some compassion and don’t snap at people.

If I saw these people again, I would not even pretend to be friends with most of them. Spawn of Satan especially: I’d take out my crucifix and send her back to hell.

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  • 6
    After 10 years as a professional programmer I still forget to run "npm install"
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    Two weeks in and nobody showed her how to bootstrap the local dev environment - that means that there was no group, just some individuums who happened to be assigned to the same project but not actually trying to be a team at all!

    "followers" are actually quite common. Under a competent leader they become valuable code monkeys and have fun writing all the boring code and tests. If there is no competent leader, they will just follow anyone they like.

    The ego probably was the most severe problem. Nothing you can do about an ego except removing or ignoring her. It is always bad when teams contain incompatible persons. Would suggest putting the egos into their own teams. Sometimes they can be productive when working with their own kind.

    Next time try to get a competent team lead or assume the role yourself if possible. A bad team lead is still better than a malicious one.
  • 1
    @Oktokolo I agree on most of that, except the person who didn’t know how to start the project. We had structured the project the same way all our schools practice projects had been. Npm install, npm start.
    She just checked out mentally.

    I think people are afraid to ask for help and come off as dumb. But they can’t get anywhere if they don’t ask for help.
  • 2
    @ctnqhk: I guess it is called anxiety. Some people need an actual mentor to get over the initial hump. Pretty likely, that she has been left behind from the start because there wasn't any actual teacher involved in that "bootcamp".
  • 1
    @Oktokolo The bootcamp sucked. Everyone was left behind, including myself. But she did have an advantage that no one else in our class had: an outside engineering mentor that was provided by her employer. Honestly, after finding out she had mentorship, it was hard for me to show much compassion for her. She had resources, but she didn’t know how to use them.
  • 1
    @ctnqhk: Of course she didn't know how to use the available resources. People who can do so aren't attending bootcamps. They just use the free stauff that is already provided for free on the Internet.
  • 0
    @Oktokolo Well, almost no one ended up paying for that bootcamp. It was an ISA model. Poor quality program = most students not getting jobs = school not getting paid. So the school unintentionally made itself a free resource 😵‍💫
  • 2
    @ctnqhk: I question the use of bootcamps in general - for devs at least.
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