"Try Ubuntu Pro beta with a free personal subscription on up to 5 machines.
Learn more at https://ubuntu.c...."

....subscription ads in "apt upgrade" ... WHAT THE F

Yup that was a bit shocking for me as well. I think it is time to move on to a different distro? But I'm not sure which are good alternatives

@domfoo Thanks man, I'll check it out

@gitpush I second @domfoo 's statement. Fedora is really nice.

I want to vomit. If i hadnt switched to Debian ten years ago I would now. I am completly happy with it btw.

@gitpush literally every other distro is a better alternative to ubuntu

Yeah. Saw that today. Wasn’t impressed.

@jonas-w lol I'm curious to know why honestly, I've used it for years and no issues

@gitpush snap packages, canonical doing it things, buggy installer, weird versions of stuff that works better on debian e.g. NetworkManager. But mostly that you can't install firefox as a normal .deb but only as a snap package (that is the biggest killer IMO, except that i only had problems with Ubuntu)

@jonas-w Actually now that you mention it, yes I am having issues with network manager, my laptop doesn't connect to some wifi networks ever since last LTS update

As for Firefox yes this is becoming annoying

@gitpush especially on all other distros i instantly can connect to Enterprise Networks without any problems but it seems to be impossible on Ubuntu (at least for the Networks i tried)

@jonas-w Exactly my issue but thanks to my android phone I just share the wifi connection or via usb tethering.

Although from what I've seen it seems to be issue with network adapter driver from Ubuntu's side, because a colleague of mine has the same version running but with a different wifi adapter and all is good on his side.

Though still that was working fine before this shouldn't be the case now

@gitpush what wifi card do you have?

@jonas-w I'm honestly not sure need to check the system, but its a dell laptop not sure what they use tbh

@gitpush different things from Intel to broadcom