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Precisely because of that.
If they wanted a person to fix a thing, they'd go to upwork.com or something. They're looking for a team member however.
When they know literally nothing about you, they need to strike up a conversation where you get to speak about stuff relating to you.
Because a CV is as helpful in judging a person as is the picture of a burger in front of a fast food restaurant is helpful in determining the quality of the burgers they serve in there.
So tell me about yourself!
"I've been doing this for 14 years because (I like it / it pays a lot / my dad made me do it / it turns me on). I'd like to work with this company because (I had read the job ad / it pays good / I like the company's approach)... bla bla bla". Based on these answers they'll decide whether you're a self-centered egoistic asshole or a person who can be part of a team, where "the whole is greater than the sum of its components" holds true.
That's what HR is supposed to do. -
@itch96 I strongly disagree. Being a developer doesn't mean being an hermit and avoid human interaction. Let's stop spreading the misconception of us having social problems.
I doubt that, if someone is hiring, they'll look for someone that can't comunicate with others. Quite the opposite, I think that a good developer needs to be able to work well in a team and also to have interests outside of programming. They probably need someone to include in teams and even if that is not the case, I doubt you'd be working without human interaction. Another thing I think you'd be needing is to be humble, because that sense of feeling "superior" will most probably put you in trouble, whatever job it is. -
itch9623948y@simonebogni can you talk about youself to a complete stranger who is sitting there to judge you? How can you be comfortable with it?
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nocgod17558y@itch96 why not? Never had problem talking about my self, my hobbies, my activities, my projects, my life in general if I have a nice person sitting in front of me listening to every word I say and judging if I will fit I a team of professionals working together to achieve a goal.
I'm a very friendly person, I see it as a strength that I can talk to a someone and hear their life experience, maybe learn from it.
I'm anti this attitude that developers are anti social or have to spend all day long with code. -
nocgod17558y@kp15 yeah... no.
don't know where and with who you worked with, during my career the best developers were those who communicated socially outside their professional circle.
I'm a musician, have a dog, have a daughter, I serve (reserve) in a national search and rescue brigade and have tons of friends of which some are doctors, mechanical engineers, electrical engineers, just slobs. None of this points to what you said that the society expects us to be weirdos. We are the society. -
mundo0349118yI like how everyone here has said stuff in the lines of "you have to be able to hold a conversation"
HR will try to see if you fit in the company and find out if your CV is real.
You have to be able to human, you know? That whats the H in HR means. -
@itch96 FWIW, I wouldn't hire you, and I know that based on this post alone. But without an HR interview, you'd - depending on dev skills - pass my phone interview, then a home exercise, then a frontal interview where I wouldn't be quite sure because you're not talkative enough but I'd pass you anyway, then you'd have another technical interview with our VP R&D, and then you'd have a ten minute interview with the CEO where he'd knock you down. _And he'd be right._
So without an HR interview, we just wasted 8 hours of our time and yours. Thanks, HR, for saving my time and yours, and preventing a waste of time on someone who's so antipathic he couldn't possibly be part of a team.
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Fucking HR interviews. Fucking "tell me about yourself" and pretending to seem interested in what i have to say while you think about how you did it with a guy behind the dumpster.
For fucks sake, i am a developer, i have spent more time with coding language than human language. I speak more to a rubber duck than to my friends. That's what you want to know about me?
I am here to fix your fucking site that uses flash plugin in 2017 and you want me to tell good things about your company?
Do you want me to tell you the details about your site that i got from whois and that your subscribed domain registration will end in September this year?
You don't know what responsive design is and you dare interview me?
Thanks for wasting my time and telling me shit about your company and how you have offices in germany and china. Well guess what? I dont care. I am busy thinking about some girl... Actually i am thinking about my side project. I dont know why i pretend to be cool?
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