I'm in a slack channel with our fellow devs as a side chat for downtime.

We get to talking about coding, and then it led to the tools of coding then it led to OS debate.

I said I use Windows because it's what I work the fastest with. Then out of nowhere, they start flaming me, calling me random boy and there's really nothing I can do about it, because the "elitests" keep piling on the list of why Windows is bad.

Why is it that when I go into a coding server and I link a Windows solution to said problem, I get flamed for it?

It's honestly like I can't use software without someone trying to dox me (even if that is a overstatement)

Well you use windows because you're "used" to it.

Imho that is not a good route to take in development ;)

Personally I am just too tired of fixing issues with windows...
The latest update fucked my 2.3k € Alienware... The signatures for the Microsoft drivers are no longer recognised... Yep... The Microsoft drivers. And there have been many other issues causing bsods in the past as well (Nvidia, nvme, etc)

If you can afford it I suggest trying a Mac for dev work at least.

Windows for gaming and Linux for admin/server work.

You will find a Linux environment to be much faster once you're accustomed to it

P.S. Thats not to say I agree with any flaming. Just saying try it all before you choose ;)

Use whatever you are efficinent with ffs, its just an os

People who bitch about windows are usually the ones who use chmod 777 anyway

Bringing Windows to an OS discussion is like bringing a knife to a gunfight.

Is there a devrant slack channel?! 😮

@alecjd I think he meant 'our' as in 'his' but bring it on lol

@alecjd I wouldn't mind hosting a devrant slack channel

@master98ofu dude let's do it.

@alecjd alright, I'm gonna make it, I'll give the URL soon

@alecjd devrantgroup.slack.com

@master98ofu woot good shit. Brt.

@alecjd https://join.slack.com/devrantgroup...

People like to feel great, but doing great things is hard, so they chose an easier criterion like their choice of OS or IDE, their gaming platform ( master race bullshit) ...or their race, nationality, religion or being vegetarian. All great reasons to treat others badly.

Join the shiny new slack channel bros.
https://devrant.io/rants/698745/...

@alecjd @matsaki95 yeah man, just need your email, I think we disabled the link to be invitation only

@RickDiculous179 there is no reason why development would be faster on Linux or Mac. And certainly not faster than a Mac. Macs have a very very lousy way of dealing with full screen windows. And an especially, unforgivably bad way of dealing with multiple screens when you unplug often. I wasted precious hours on useless re-arranging and having to actually close / reopen windows that have disappeared beyond the screen.

The plain fact is that developers who use Windows get flac for literally no objective reason.

@apisarenco

First of that was my personal view on the matter. It goes without saying everyone should use what they want.

Also my comment was not meant as flaming for windows. I have used windows for development for years.

Eventually I found myself needing a better workflow (that Mac can provide me) and bash (that Mac can provide me). And I am too sick of dealing with blue screens. Way too sick of it.

I have also used Linux for dev for a short time but due to app compatibility that didn't last.

@RickDiculous179 :) people are reporting driver issues, BSODs and other stuff which I literally haven't seen for years, even when I went through several laptops. I found the only people who complain about BSODs are people who are not even using Windows.
Judging from this, I must say it feels kinda dishonest.

As for bash... it's just a preference whether to use bash or powershell. Bash has been around for far longer, but other than that there's not a big difference. Also there is a Linux subsystem now on Windows, so you can use even your favorite bash.
But even so, the standard with web development at least, is that you should be working on an environment that mimics production, and that is identical to the environment of every other developer, so that there's no more "works on my machine" bullcrap. In which case virtual machines are employed, and Vagrant is the goto solution. OS doesn't matter in this case.

@apisarenco Its not dishonest. Some where by Nvidia drivers (hybrid), some by nvme driver and as I said on first post I now have signature issues due to an update so I can't boot with signature enforcement on. I could attach a screenshot but I don't feel the need to prove anything.

Why should I choose to keep facing these while trying to work?

And yeah bash is a preference but I am not convinced about the Linux subsystem yet (and what issues might arise in the mix).

At any rate let's not continue this discussion. I have my views you have yours that's all well and good.

@RickDiculous179 I didn't accuse you of dishonesty, but I just say how it feels, because how else would my irrational mind explain that people are having issues that neither me or any of my acquaintances has had?

This is a problem of outliers. There are always going to be some people who either get the unbelievably good experience, and those that will get the worst. I'm probably the guy that got the worst out of Mac OS experience, since it destroyed my set-up environment and some of my data, after just a month of use, and support couldn't help with anything. I think that counts more than some BSODs here and there.

I also had issues with Linux, and it's not like just one time. Whenever I make a clean install of Ubuntu on any laptop, and set up a few widely used .deb apps, I constantly get error messages with annoying "send report" dialog. Not to mention the number of times Linux became unworkable because of a driver issue

The point is that personal experience does not show quality

@apisarenco

Dirty/fast solution:
apt remove apport

Will get rid of the messages and you probably won't see any difference - everything will work.

Linux distros usually require some or a lot of setup on each machine to work properly

I find it strange that OS seems to be so important in work performance.

For me, the most important part of developing happens within my brain and as far as i know, all OSs have IDEs and Editors with configurable key-shortcuts for everything and the possibility to automate a lot with scripts.