The illusion of choice...

do you have any proof?

Download "O&O Shut up". Remove things you don't want. Enjoy better privacy :)

Saw that screen today on my computer. Fuckin' windows...

That's Windows for ya ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@beriba what do you mean? You saw that screen because stupid people complained

@dontbeevil Microsoft forces you to see this screen and to "choose" between no privacy and "privacy"

@beriba yeah because antitrust forced ms tho show this screen

@beriba and can you provide me also the proof that if you choose "privacy" is not true... And can you provide me also the proof that with apple and google instead you have more privacy?

@dontbeevil Well Apple utilities differential privacy...
https://wired.com/2016/06/...

@gnaaah so because apple say so you believe them, if ms put a switch you don't... Make sense. Do you slso believe cook when he say ipad pro is a pc, and jobs blame users instead of their fault?

@dontbeevil I paid for the system, it's mine (of course I mean the copy) and I don't want any ads or sending any data to Microsoft. I just don't. And this screen forces me to choose between more or less data to be sent.

And privacy in other companies products is not an argument here. It's like saying that Moon is a planet because Mars is a planet. They're both in the outer space, right?

@dontbeevil All I say is that Apple is the only major company that actually incorporates privacy into their business. There are not many major companies that both market this strategy and actually ship concepts that make this happen.

@gnaaah From what I see here
https://apple.com/legal/privacy/...

That wired article is really misleading. Sure they have SOME noise for some features. But for most others, you can be easily identified. Also, some features require your information in order to work.

@arekxv That's right. The gist is that Apple does more than most other companies to protect user privacy, which is mostly none. It's not perfect and may just be in certain areas, but it's more than what we get elsewhere, apart from the open source world obviously 😋

I also think that besides Google collecting all sort of data allowing users to opt out of almost anything is pretty good too.

@gnaaah so once again you believe google opt kut, but you don't believe ms switches :)

@dontbeevil You get no privacy with any of the services (including software) provided by the companies integrated in PRISM, the biggest mass surveillance system ever created.

And yeah just search search engines for a bit and you'll find it has been proven that although those settings can turn off some data collection, they're still collecting shitloads.