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I hear you. If you have a cell phone, your data is tracked. Period. Ditto for a computer. The moment you connect to your provider, your privacy is gone. Naivete is thinking that if you are using some cloaking program, or Tor, or whatever, that you got one over on the providers, or the government. Ask the guy who ran Silk Road how that went for him.
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Alright. Say I want to stay out of the PRISM bubble and I HAVE to email you on your personal email, then YOU are leaving me no choice but to get integrated.
Say I managed to avoid the case above and I'm going to download some tracker blocker addons but I, obviously, don't want anything to do with Google. Even Firefox' addons make it hard because it uses Google analytics. Do I have a choice this time? Nope.
I remember I managed to keep my phone number and name out of Google! Then I exchanged contact info with someone who directory saved it into Google Contacts. My choice? Nope but there goes all my FUCKING effort.
Tbh if everyone around you used it, you'll be fucked at some point and that's why I'm highly fucking against that shit. -
@crisz nope.
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The problem is, you will even be tracked without having an account. About every website contains Google Analytics, which is able to generate a unique id from all the data it can get. So everything they know will then be linked to an id, without you needing an account. The same goes for Facebooks Like button, Twitters Share button, Googles +1 button, and so on... The big social networks know on which website you are, where you have been, and how long your stay was. And because the full url is sent, they even know which article you are reading, for how long, etc. And you can do nothing against that, but blocking all these tracking domains (which constantly change), in your hosts file, in your firewall, or anything like that. Then, you would also have to update these, because the domains as said, constantly change. Nobody actually has real control of the(ir) data.
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If you haven't already, I recommend you request the data Facebook has stored about you and read through it.
Download here (desktop only): https://www.facebook.com/settings
Then tell me you have control over your data again. -
@Gatgeagent for "control" I mean that I know they know it.
Just consider that whatever you put on the net, there's someone who can read it. Well, when I had a pc for the first time I didn't imagine that facebook could spy what I did on another website, but of course I knew that what I put wasn't private and there was someone who could access them.
Actually, I was still more pessimist. Things changed when I studied cryptography and I discovered there was a way to protect data.
Anyways, they will always create an ID about you, but they won't be able to link that ID to a physical person if you're enough good.
For example, you could use TOR and you could delete your cookie -
@succcubbus I had already done it months ago. Yes, I know they collect information about me, but there's no a physical way to get information that I didn't put. I'm just saying it. I'm not saying that's a good thing or that they're in good faith, I'm just saying that we should know our enemies and don't share personal information, without losing the advantages of their services (if we need them). I hope you understood
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@iAmNaN I know! Read other comments I posted
For fuck sake, stop complaining about the lack of privacy everywhere.
I'm not saying that worrying about your privacy is bad, I also really want to be protected and I know the risks we run when put our information on the net, I care about my data, but please stop acting like whoever uses Google, Facebook or Windows is a fool and you're the only genius around.
Because guess, I use their services and when I use them I'm explicitly authorizing them to process my data, to track me and to create a profile about me. It's an exchange, I know what they're doing and I've control on the data I'm serving them.
If, for some reason, I want to be more protected then I fucking use some open source iper-safe alternative, and that's it.
Seriously, I'm happy if you use those fancy alternative services for everything (for your reasons, I don't care) and I'm glad if you decided to don't use any closed source service anymore, but please, stop screaming against who uses them
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