@atheist Together we can rule the database as senior and junior.

@Lensflare There‘s a third explanation: They wanted to get in contact with us, but watched us first. After that they decided to leave again and mark our solar system as a no-go-zone.

At university - especially when you get a PhD - you learn how things work, but not necessarily how to work.

@retoor Hey, I‘m almost 60, and I know how to … do that stuff OP was talking about!

@bitjedi Same here. Hearing the folks around me is one of the biggest downsides of so called ‚open space‘.

If you'd like to switch, go for AI, machine learning etc. I'm currently into it, and it's awesome.

Depends on his tool of choice. If it's Paint, then RUN! RUN! RUN!

That reminds me of a project I was in about 10 years ago. There were 4 developers in the team, no beginners. I insisted in the kickoff meeting, that we should write comments in the code, at least headers for classes, methods, and properties (yeah, C#, sue me). There's an option in Visual Studio that makes comments mandantory, so I activated it.

It was my duty to write the framework, UI components, etc. All my code had header comments plus comments in the code where it was necessary.

A team mate asked me about 2 months after the beginning to help him with a nasty bug he couldn't locate. So I opened up the sources, and it struck my eyes with a sledgehammer. There was only 1(!) other team mate who wrote proper comments. The third one had added empty comment blocks to every class, method and property, and the last one always added the comment "A comment is soon to come" to keep the compiler quiet.

Needless to say, that I went home early that day and sobbed myself to sleep.

Use COBOL. A simple Hello World is about two pages long, of you print it.

@QCat I gave Mono a try in 2011, but it didn't convince me at all. Plus, I like Java and Python.

@QCat I know, because I had used that class several times before. But this time not even breakpoints seemed to stop the execution.

@sam9669 It's more of an "I'm bored, what can I do to waste time?" code, so it's free of MVC and other patterns. And I didn't post this for an advice, but as an anecdote.

In the office, I write C# code since 2002 in different flavours (fat clients, web applications, Windows services, web services ...). At home, I prefer Java and Python, because I use Windows, Linux, and macOS.

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@Kimmax Mein Name ist älter als der Werbeslogan von Penny. Lies mal "Framstag Sam" von Paul van Herck.

@busuu Yeah! But you have to admit, that the result is exactly the same.

@OfficerHalf We're sitting next to the mailroom. In an open-plan office.

We use the official drivers, so the guy who wrote them, must be sitting on the other side of the ocean.

Side effect of those printers: the guys that work in that department are deaf like a stone because of the noise. That's why they're talking REALLY loud.

As long as the PM is competent, I'm happy to work with hir. It's just that I can't stand incompetence.

(It's a sign of competence for me, if you admit, that you don't know something.)

@TheBardAbaddon SUATMM!!1!1

/me wants that!

Edith: wait ... is that a Cthulhu sticker down there?!

@flag0 It's a disaster in an open-plan office, because that annoying sound drills through your brain, and you can't focus your thoughts on the problem.

@Framstag No, just kidding. But the fax incident was real. Unfortunately.

@g-m-f And, before you ask: After a little incident involving a vacuum cleaner and our customer database 7 years ago, we switched from magnetic-core memory to cutting edge SIPP.

@g-m-f Fortunately not. We switched to tape cartriges a few years ago.

I'd buy new computers (mine are currently 8 and 10 years old), and an alt saxophone (had to sell my tenor sax because it was way too loud for my neighbours).

@nottoobright Oh, masochists ...

I had those "who wrote that crap ... oh, me?" moments more than once. A lot more.

But it's a good sign, because it means you're learning and developing.

@shaggy1 It's not smart waisting the time.

Laziness is the key momentum for writing software. At least for me.

Because we put a lot of erffort in writing a program or script that saves us doing at least 3 manual activities in a much higher speed ... and then waist the saved time with watching our software doing the job.