@NoMad I'm not trying to prove anything, sorry about that. I was just pulling your leg on something I thought would be harmless. My bad!

@NoMad so much for being inviting to newbies! One might think it's only applicable to newbies you like. This one is clearly not accustomed to the environment here, and english is probably not their first language. Assumption of being a troll isn't very compassionate!

It seems as if @NoMad was only advocating for compassion towards newbies. I don't think that's a bad virtue to have to be honest. We are all intelligent and selfaware enough as a community to not fall into the trap of 'all inclusiveness'.

Did I sum it up correctly?

@xprnio that looks sick xD

@breznMate It's kind of like the imposter syndrome. One of the causes for that are achieving too quickly, switching to more advanced circles of people, and hence facing people who are far more advanced at a particular topic than you are simply because of inexperience.

I feel like that is amplified on the internet, which most programmers call home :P.

I agree man. I'm kinda at the same place although I admit I'm way closer to 2 than 3, I still have the idealistic perspective that things will work out simply because a certain kind of process is followed which is shown to be more stable. I'm slowly breaking out of that as I get more experience, modifying existing processes based on logical assumptions of what will be more stable and what won't.

Though I do wonder, is there a fourth layer? What would that look like? After you've conquered city building, will it be trying to conquer space -- building systems or processes of thought/code yourself?

Hey! Consider changing just your keycaps instead of the entire keyboard. As you said, there is a ton of sentimental value to it. I think it is important :)

@Root as I mentioned before, I agree that it's a problem. For my use case, as I have said before, I have other varied sources for my political dosage. I don't go to Google or Facebook for news and actively contemplate any such content, regardless of source. As for how it manipulates general political perspective, as @3rdWorldPoison mentioned, they simply amplify already existing hotspots of extremism. The problem exists with the awareness of this fact.

Regardless, controlling information distribution and manipulating public perception on a certain topic should be considered a crime, and the companies should be treated to an appropriate punishment. I simply fail to realise why I should stop using the product, because a) it does not affect my political beliefs in any way shape or form, b) it is superior to any other search engine and has only resulted in gain for me, personally, and c) it is being treated to said punishment, and is being actively investigated.

@Demolishun That's interesting. I'll try out duckduckgo for a while then, thanks for the suggestion!

@Demolishun I agree with you on a moral basis. These companies must be questioned for such practices that may potentially bring humanity to ruin.

However, that is not enough reason to prohibit me from using the best service that mankind has ever known. I won't handicap my work just because the company might be 'evil'. As for them influencing me, I have enough sources on both sides of the spectrum where I live (not USA) and enough of a conscience that I won't be swayed by the information control by Google.

Do understand that this isn't an opposition to your point of view. The government should prosecute these companies for potential crimes. My boycotting the company doesn't solve anything. My only question is this: if there is a choice between two search engines, one of which gave me objectively better results and saved my time, why wouldn't I go for that?

In fact, Google is the primary reason why I am a developer right now. There may have been another company providing search service in an alternate universe which was more ethical, but in this one Google has helped me tremendously and for that I am grateful.

@Demolishun @Root, I sincerely don't understand why the tracking and data collecting that Google does is harmful to you. Why is it so bad that they earn money based on your search history? Their service is excellent, and I think your 'privacy' (which you don't have on the internet anyway) is a small price to pay for that.

-connect+discord+jinzug-

Also it's better for the junior since at a point where they ask 'how do I do X', they haven't tried anything yet, and any and all explanations contribute to making an unintuitive fact in their mind.

@junon yeah, I was talking about NPM, not Node itself.

It frustrates me, but I like it. It's just that it's too abstracted for its own good. I come from android/ios development though, which is far more abstracted than node, so maybe that's why it doesn't bother me too much.

Yeah, the only thing that sort of concerned me is an SoC makes the MacBook like a tablet. Erases the possibility of repair. Then I realised they're not repairable anyway. So whatever.

However promising the numbers are, I'm not optimistic about the experience itself. Maybe my experience is unique, but I have a ton of trouble with Macs in that they're very unreliable. The T2 chip and the intel chips along with the touchbar made it so that when kernel panics occur (more often than you might think) they completely disable your device. Very recently my macbook refused to charge because it looked like all four thunderbolt ports refused to work. I've sort of concluded that a hackintosh is the way to go, you get the great software with some great hardware more or less of your choice.