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Internet Version 2, with technologically enforced privacy and neutrality.

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Internet Version 2, with technologically enforced privacy and neutrality.

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This is a semi-serious idea, I wonder if there's a way to enforce net neutrality at a technological level? Privacy is already possible, there are a whole bunch of ways of doing that. But neutrality? Essentially a way to access content without the local provider knowing where it is located (tough, yeah. But they also said that for authentication before asymmetric cryptography). Maybe make it more difficult and resource-consuming to break neutrality? Sounds more like a research project to me (I wonder if I can take it up with one of my profs?), but I'm hoping to spark off a discussion here. I'm not sure if this is suitable for the Collab section, I'll gladly remove it if it isn't.
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  • 8
    7y
    @perfectasshole
  • 10
    7y
    Using dnscrypt you get pretty close. Just have the sni and ip address issue to figure out
  • 7
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    I would help if there is anything to do :)
  • 5
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    I'm in.
  • 5
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    @FrodoSwaggins sounds like i2p
  • 1
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    @ThatDude well it being fast is cause of it being a point A to point B connection. No matter what there always will be atleast one trackable connection like vpns.
  • 1
    7y
    @J-2FA slack, mate IRC is the future
  • 4
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    @J-2FA i hope that is a joke
  • 4
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    @J-2FA not sure if serious so here's a Wikipedia article :

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    Basically, Slack was ones a glorified IRC client, and the protocol is older than HTTP!
  • 2
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    Two words... distributed internet. Phase one rides on the back of the current web... phase two comes as we design cheap open source hardware to connect people without corporate data carriers, something like long range WiFi that finds other nodes and allows this distributed internet to run with high redundancy. Something like that...
  • 4
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    @FrodoSwaggins @PerfectAsshole yep, sounds like i2p alright. Check out Kovri (a C++ implementation of i2p in the works): https://getkovri.org
  • 1
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    @endor neat
  • 5
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    Would you look at this, people coming together to further technology with out the help of the government... Maybe getting rid of net neutrality was a good thing
  • 2
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    Not an endorsement, just thought this link should be in the mix. http://youbroketheinternet.org
  • 1
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    Isn't it the infrastructure that needs to be replaced rather than bypassing it in software level?
  • 2
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    @HoloDreamer well replacing the infrastructure would be better but then you would have to get everybody to switch over. If this wasn't already a problem i would have a solution in creating a program that uses public keys on dns
  • 3
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    @J-2FA Hahaha, a slack channel? Slack has a data selling business model and doesn't encrypt convo's :P
  • 1
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    I do a lot of networking and network level encryption so I'm in if needed
  • 2
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    I feel like https://ipfs.io is something like this. All it needs is good encryption.
  • 0
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    @wolt
  • 1
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    As @agaskins said, we need to use the current infrastructure first, as creating a new one is a whole new problem.

    So, so far we have Tor, Kovri and IPFS. How can we use these things to create a new web? What problems do these not solve?
  • 0
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    @shellbug i heard using Tor gives away access to your webcam and all. Like Tor site offers can record you and all. Is that true?
  • 0
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    @HoloDreamer sorry, I have no idea. I only heard about tor here on devrant. Someone else here might be able to answer that. @linuxxx ?
  • 2
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    @HoloDreamer accessing tor sites is the same as accessing clearnet sites. If it has access to your webcam its your browsers fault
  • 2
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    @FrodoSwaggins As mentioned before, that would require highly entropic encryption, and even that could possibly not be enough.

    Edit: You mentioned that. DOH.
  • 2
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    @HoloDreamer It's just a Firefox browser with more right security settings. If a site is malicious and finds a way around the permission system then yeah possible but by default it's still up to the user with a big ass permission pop-up.

    May I ask where you heard that?
  • 0
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    @linuxxx on a Whatsapp group from someone who is active there for circular trading in stock market. He said he had a darknet site and if someone visited it, he would have those privileges in the user's webcam and mic. Said it was security issue with tor browser and didn't bother to ask further about it.
  • 2
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    @HoloDreamer As far as I know that's bs. And if not, that'd be patched the second it would be discovered/reported!
  • 1
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    @PerfectAsshole ipfs?
  • 1
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    📌 pinning because interesting
  • 1
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    Distributed, encrypted-by-default internet... Sounds like tor: https://torproject.org/projects/...
  • 1
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    📌
    Sounds great. Interested on how things turn out. And also, I am super poor in this topic.
  • 2
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    Try ZeroNet
  • 1
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    Let me know if I can do anything
  • 0
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    any updates?
  • 0
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