Typical interview response from employers nowadays on a candidate's tech skills:

"We don't have the budget to teach someone how to work with the technology. We expect from you that you are already an expert and you need no guidance. We have neither time nor money for slowdowns. We are under pressure to deliver"

Back in the days "I'm willing to learn" used to be of value, but things have changed.

Yh, but think about "willing to learn" is a stupid argument. Your 5yr old neighbor kid is willing to learn to. Should be be hired? Of course some related skills were required upfront. You're doing a job bevause you like it AND you're good at it. They won't invest in just anyone who wants to do it... Because who wants to do it applies to many people but they suck in it

@retoor graduates need a first hand on something. Some of us are very good at teaching yet HR keep trying to hire the “perfect candidate” for 1 year while we would need 6 months to teach a newbie.

Well - sure. But are you willing to pay for the expertise?
What? 60%-75% of my expected salary?
For that price, I'm willing to put in 50% of effort! You good with that?
Why not?
Oh well. Byeeeee!

just cuz you're going doesn't mean you're going in the right direction

id argue people end up in the, so to speak, rat race because they're too busy going the wrong way when they could've slowed down and thought about what might be the better way to go first before scurrying their little legs

alas

@retoor actually recently I had the total opposite thought

because I keep meeting so many people unwilling to learn, I think I've seriously underestimated what an insane selling point being willing to learn is

before I'd just say it because it was fact and metaphysically made sense. I assumed everyone knew this.

now I'm thinking I should be shouting it from the rooftops. more than likely people are desperate for those willing to learn, in the age of merit being overtaken by politics, entitlement of zoomers or whatever you wanna call it (it's not just zoomers, everyone is just entitled now), if you hear someone say they're willing to learn your first reaction would probably be "oh that's bullshit, nobody is willing to learn". if they're in that position you're goddamned Jesus come from the heavens now, you just have to convince them the rumours really are true

@jestdotty strong selling point? Everyone regarding willing to learn or not say that they do

@magicMirror I feel this so hard.

@retoor every company promise a startup ambiance, friendly team and flexible work, yet the ones which are not pure toxicity are rare.

@Tounai hmm, yh. I encountered toxity and only one employer but in general, how toxic can a company be. You got hours, they pay hours. That's kinda the whole deal with a company. Oh, and I worked one time at a company no one worked! That was toxic, it made me lazy and took time to recover from that. You slowly become one of them. If I actually wanted to achieve smth they were looking at me weird

@retoor well they'll make you work hours they don't pay, so that happened

had one boss literally, while I was leaving work because I was too sick to make it to the end of the day, go into my timesheets right as I was leaving and change my half sick day usage to paid time off usage. I wasn't gonna argue past my surprised exclamation as he was doing it cuz I was too sick to put up any kind of fight so that happened

I think NL job culture is actually exceedingly good and out of the ordinary

@retoor well I currently accept to be underpaid just to not be in a toxic company, so it’s not just a simple deal. There’s many things aside from money. How remote working is implemented for example, or what degree of freedom you are allowed, or how working hours are coerced. Every company will promise flexibility, remote working, low level of pressure etc, but a lot of them are lying. On my side, I don’t want to work under pressure, I want to work free and I want to be trusted, if I land somewhere and that’s not the case, I have been fooled or wrongly accepted because I won’t fit.

@jestdotty NL job culture is great indeed. At least in this sector