Every damn time, on every damn website! Why Cloudflare why??

"Are you really...?"
But I feel you, everyone seem to think that I am a robot on the Internet. I've clicked on enough cars, roads, front stores, and everything to last a lifetime.

2 Possibilities I am aware of.
Are you using a VPN?
Do you share your Internet with many ppl, lets say 10 or more?

@FrodoSwaggins And I can't seem to avoid it. Almost every thing is running on it.

@Jilano Speak of the devil.

@SAM41 No and no.

i have this when i'm using my smartphone as wifi hotspot.

I hate Google and everything that sucks up to it.
Cloudflare most definitely included.

I can't visit a single goddamn cloudflare-hosted site on my phone because it serves me never-ending (and usually broken) captchas. Occasionally I get a very nice "kindly fuck off" message instead. Kindly fuck off to you, too!

I want to light their servers on fire and then shove the scorched and red-hot chassis up their employees' asses. One 2u server per rectum so they all get a turn. Management? 2x 2u. Google fanboys? Entire goddamned rack.

😡😡😡

Edit: I maaaay be a little bitchy and spiteful today.

@smallTalker Yeah, I saw that too. Not fast but hey, it worked!

@Root Hahahaha, you are awesome!

@FrodoSwaggins How is CloudFlare evil? They protect websites, do reverse proxy and give SSL protection for free.

The only reason you get the challenge page is because you trigger a rule. Can be as simple as bad network or browser configuration. Or you're using VPNs or shared connections with previous suspicious activities.

And btw, the rules are selected by the site owner. If you legitimately get challenged for no reason, you should blame the site operator adding bogus or too aggressive rules...

@LastDigitOfPi Thanks for giving some hope.

@Cyanide Already googled/ddg "cloudflare [your ISP]"?

@SAM41 Nope.

@FrodoSwaggins Sure, let's all put a tin foil hat.

@NGPixel Take off your "everything's peachy" google-approved goggles and take a look around. You'll find tracking and spying and questionable practices everywhere.

(Though I'm sure if you do your response will change from "lol you're crazy" to "oh. well, there's nothing you can do now; might as well give in." Great minimum-effort response right there.)

@Root Off topic much? I'm not even talking about tracking or spying or Google... The vast majority of websites use GA or other tracking means. That's why ad and tracking blockers exist.

@FrodoSwaggins By your logic, you shouldn't even use the internet. The CIA could have a backdoor in your phone OS or tapping whatever online service you might be using, right after the SSL offload. Throwing the "CIA is behind this" argument on everything is simply shortsighted.

Before Let's Encrypt and CloudFlare, the only way to protect your website was to buy expensive certificates. Now we have Let's Encrypt which is free but still a pain to use and deploy for the average user. So when a company offers a free and super simple solution for HTTPS to everyone by moving their business model towards enterprise plans to make money: sure, let's throw that company under the bus! It's the CIA!

The fact is most people either don't see the value of paying for a certificate or can't be bothered to learn and maintain a Let's Encrypt certificate.

Until HTTPS becomes free and easy to deploy by everybody, I think we shouldn't discard companies like CloudFlare. You don't trust them, don't use them.

@FrodoSwaggins I understand your point but you're one of the very few who think this way.

Nobody wants to deal with self signed certificates, nobody want to setup and maintain their own private mail server. They are ok with Google being able to read their mails, because they get something free and convenient in return. Even when big companies have the resources to buy their own infrastructure, you'd be surprised how many prefer to delegate these tasks to 3rd party companies because it's more cost effective. Most people don't want to learn SSL and networks, they simply want something that works right away.

@NGPixel Off Topic? Really?

Cloudflare reading traffic: Spying.
Cloudflare monitoring connections: Tracking.
Free encryption service that allows the above: Questionable practices.

But you're not talking about Google? Guess what, Google does the exact. same. thing.

"The vast majority of sites use google analytics": Kind of made my point for me here. again.

"That's why tracking blockers exist": Tracking blockers run on your client, and therefore cannot protect against shady encryption or traffic analysis by trusted providers, or anyone trusted by said providers.

You're still wearing those goggles!

@Root There's a difference between not caring about spying / tracking practices and having a more nuanced opinion about it. I simply find the whole "every company in the world is working for the CIA" argument completely absurd. Do you seriously think it's in the best interests of CloudFlare, a company focused solely on network security, to be leaking your stuff to other organizations? Microsoft has been fighting in court for a long time to get these secret NSA letters to stop and be disclosed. When Google learned the NSA was tapping into their private links between datacenters, guess what they did? They added end-to-end encryption as soon as data leave their premises. No company wants to deal with that bullshit.

Tracking on the other hand is a requirement. Whether you like it or not, companies need a way to track their sales, justify their investments, etc.

So if you can't accept some compromises while taking steps to protect yourself, then go put your tin foil hat and disconnect from the internet entirely. You can't get all or nothing.

@-BSD Not for me anymore :)

@-BSD Hang on. You'll get through.