Somebody want to bet that by next year, the US governement is a LLM and nuked the world? I bet 10 euros in btc.

I can even do 3-to-1.

You think BTC, a currency that requires electricity and the internet, will still be used in the nuclear apocalypse?

@atheist AI likes electricity and the internet

Lets just leave it at Europe. I am okay with these kinds of losses. ;-)

Wasn't Zelensky requesting nukes? Also, I understood that if Israel thinks they will lose in a major conflict they have a protocol to nuke the world into oblivion.

maybe you could make a bet on polymarket. idk how it works

@atheist it does not require the internet.

And electricity is easy to make

@Demolishun it's not the 60ies anymore. You cannot nuke one continent, it's all or nothing

@Demolishun it's not the 60ies anymore. You cannot nuke one continent, it's all or nothing

@jestdotty the polymarket? I heard once you're married it's called swinging

Eh, nothing ever fucking happens. There was an insurrection in the US, people with guns ran the capitol, riot police took them away and that was that. War broke out in an NATO neighbor, the EU failed to vote on some sanctions for a few months, everyone threw a bunch of money and equipment at the defenders and that was that. Israel had enough of the Gaza conflict, mowed down a bunch of innocent civilians, and that's fucking that. Nuclear non-proliferation is failing because the US isn't disincentivizing it as well as they used to, but I bet all small countries will do with a nuke is demand free trade and make baseless threats that no one believes.

Everything is so localized. The wildest things happen, everyone recalculates their incentives, tweaks their prices, and moves on. The world economy acts as this massive trampoline that doesn't stop world-shaking events but somehow dissipates their pressure. Any win balances any loss, so even destroying a city just sounds kind of expensive.

Unlike Israel and Iran, Russia actually is large enough to survive in isolation, but they didn't act on any of their nuclear threats. Why? I say because doing so is literally never worth it for any agent. If you lost a war so brutally that your country becomes an oppressed minority, it's still not better off nuked.

I don't believe that Israel has a nuclear revenge plan because I don't think there's a smidgeon of sincere patriotism or camaraderie in Netanjahu and his ilk, and his self interest dictates to retire in exile if his country is standing to lose.

+ Immediately before the war, he was most known for trying to quickly subvert democratic institutions before the next election, and then promptly getting impeached.

@lorentz The nuclear holocaust is necessary so that our friends the communists from the sky come to reveal us the truth.

@jestdotty Fewer people also means less work being done and thus less supply. The main difference is that because commerce dips in every sector not needed for the army, economies of scale don't work as well and prices in these areas rise.

@jestdotty fuel, food, infrastructure, maintenance and the service sector are all either used up in a war or don't run without people.

@jestdotty Right, and how long do these operations run before the human supervisor has to step in to untangle the robots from the undergrowth? I admit I haven't looked at this in a few years, but based on 2018's "cutting edge" showcases in automated farming, the half life of unsupervised planters would be about 10 minutes.

Maybe half life isn't a good metric actually since there's no way in hell the robots know how to identify and navigate around a broken peer so cascades are all but guaranteed.

@jestdotty

> lol that wasn't an insurrection

yeah exactly. A bunch of submissive pussies. If you take guns to the executive palace and manage to get it, just stay there, you goddamn idiot.

Imagine if the american had conquered berlin in 1945 and then then decided to just leave just because why tf not? It's basic strategy lmao they were just clowns.

@antigermanist do you know what that "distributed" bit means?

@atheist no idea no