Stop using Scratch and Alice and start teaching actual programming languages

Looks like Alice likes to be used 😋

whoops 😲

True story. BUUUT kids seem to be taught the mindset of a programmer with those two. Also, anyone remember Turtle? *salt*

Its Bob and Alice :i

@simulate lol thats a bit rude

you forgot construct2

This article explains why :
https://medium.com/@vopi/...

Honestly I liked Alice, it's a bit big, yes. But I was able to make an entire RPG for one of my assignments.

@dontPanic
what.. it is? Sorrey

Most universities and high schools teach this to think computationally, I completely understand that. But to think computationally doesn’t take a semester to understand. I think you could get a top-notch coding education online rather than universities. But that’s just my 2cents.
You need a degree for everything now, knowledge > where you got your degree.

I think there should be a scratch-like IDE for javascript/python, showing the code as point-and-click blocks, but allowing you to "zoom in" and edit the snippets in more advanced ways as well.

I think Khan academy does a pretty good job, I've supported a few kids finishing their introduction JS animation course. It uses processing.js, so you learn a bit of math and loop/branch/function basics, while making funny drawings, minigames and animations (https://khanacademy.org/computing/...).

Processing.js + a scratch-like blocks interface could lower the threshold further, without lowering the ceiling.

@scratch

Well damn ok. Only an @Alice then

I remember being green and buying a book on Alice because it was listed as required text. $50 down the drain.