You know, exiting Skype is even harder than exiting Vim

Atleast vim does as it’s told once you work out how to close it.

Totally is. 😞

sudo pkill -9 skype

Me: *hits X button*

Skype: *proceeds to minimize*

Me to Skype: “y’know, if I wanted to minimize, I’d have hit the - button...”😒

Guys are you really serious with this shit? All the instant messaging apps minimize with the X... Pro tip: it's because you can keep receive messages and notifications without occupy space on the desktop/task bar

P. S.
At least till few years ago, now with modern apps like UWP you don't need it anymore

P. P. S
Pro tip 2: right click on the icon - > exit... Wow that's totally harder than vim

let's see, how do you close ICQ, AOL, MSN... or even your beloved SLACK? I tried with the X but doesn't exit ... WOW IT'S SO HARD, PLEASE HELP ME !!!

@dontbeevil i 100% agree with you
Skype is shit for hundreds of other reasons but not this one

Iirc you can even Set it in the settings that if you press X i'll close completely.

But i guess that's to Hard to do / find for a cummon user

@Sourcerer but you know they're It expert, blame on anything from MS for any reason it's cool

P.S.
plot twist: this thing and other Skype real problems comes from the original code, when the app was not developed by MS... and it's hard to update and maintain compatibility such ancient legacy code... is much easier to develop an app and infrastructure from scratch (developers should know)

@linuxxx that unlocked something on my brain

@dontbeevil Pidgin doesn't It closes everything haha

Try Skype for Business..

I highly doubt that, https://stackoverflow.blog/2017/05/...

@linuxxx what is the `-9` for ?

and even that more simplier then make their other messaging product works.

MS teams i fu-cking hate you!!

@sheepz why? we're using it since september and we love it ... ah right it's from MS

p.s.
we fianlly ditched slack

If you don't like the slack app you can always use the browser right and enable desktop notifications

@dontbeevil Come on, its really bad product.

it has really buggy (almost not usable) mobile app. the desktop one keep freezing, delay notifications and really lame UI.

[last one is subjective i know]

I'm using MS visual code on daily basis, so no open bills with MS.

@sheepz Visual Studio Code is not a Microsoft Product. Skype is. I use VS code everyday but I avoid visual studio. It's more like a free software that is more open source geared.

@thremedy still doesn't change the fact that teams is half baked software

@sheepz strange, nobody reported this issues.. If it was like this, we'd never switch... Which os? The ui once you get used is really good, teams instead of slack slow workplaces and threads in the same channel window, not in new one like slack... I agree that for example the reply button could be smaller, but nothing is perfect.... Overall better than slack

@sheepz to be sure I decide how many people complains on the freezing issue

https://microsoftteams.uservoice.com/...

@dontbeevil yeah, you are right. Teams is awesome. You are awesome. Have a awesome (like you) day :)

@sheepz problem solved, if you cannot accept a discussion only because you have some problems and I'm not saying it's not true, I checked with thousands of people, I cannot do anything :)

@lunorian shh don't break their hearts

@8bits It forces the process termination :)

@irene I can’t speak for everyone on the “other side” but my complaint was much more referring to unwanted behavior than difficulty in closing an app.

I don’t actually use Skype that often but it opens on restart. The first time I noticed the new behavior of minimizing/running in background when you hit “X” I was surprised because to me it seemed like unnecessary functionality. Every now and then I still hit the X expecting it to close, lol. It’s just an inconvenience not the end of the world.

I’m no exception when it comes to saying silly things or doing silly things but I don’t believe this is one of them so I needed to clarify.

@enoon change in your rant/comment the word skype with slack and let's see what happens. :-)

P. S
If i disable open on startup in Skype options it stays off... I did this few times in slack and it keeps switch on and open on startup

@dontbeevil I don’t use slack desktop. What’s the expected behavior?

@enoon same of skype or most of chat software... The only difference that when you uncheck load on startup from settings, skype doesn't load, slack often keep autostart... At least this was my experience, now we ditched slack for teams

@dontbeevil okay... well, my complaint wasn’t about whether or not it opened on startup. just what I consider unnecessary behavior when you hit the ‘X’ button.

But I can see how annoying it would be to have an app open on startup even after disabling that option.

@irene yes I know, same for Skype and teams, but i prefer the app versions

@irene yea i know, but i still preferred to have it as an "app"

@enoon i got your point, but it's the same for most of chat apps, do you use anything else than Skype?

I don't get instead other people that complain on this behaviour in skype, but they use a similar app that behave exactly the same

I have a batch script for killing it. Aliases “taskkill /f /im Skype.exe”

@juneeighteen cool so you can reuse this script to kill any other instant messaging app

what makes skype a jerk? Even when logged off the close button is really useless. File > close is also useless. Oh look it's hidden on the system tray

what makes skype a jerk? Even when logged off the close button is really useless. File > close is also useless. Oh look it's hidden on the system tray

@thremedy once again... Exactly like most of im apps

P. S.
Ah and this is by design since the first version of Skype... Developed by Skype and not ms... Just fyi

@dontbeevil IM apps have poop logic

In Yahoo! Messenger (RIP Yahoo! Messenger!:'( ), under the File menu you can either choose close or exit.

Left Skype because it used to freeze on my old Win7 machine. I could not close this shitty app AT ALL.

The X didn't respond. Same goes for right-click and exit on the Skype icon. Fired up taskmanager with admin rights: close the application (or the according process structure) would do exactly nothing. I even tryed taskkill -f in admin cmd. No fckn chance to get rid of this window. Got the feeling that Skype merged with the kernel...

One day i finally uninstalled it and never used it ever since.

Worst is OneDrive. Not quittable by design, comes and starts with Windows.

Im so lucky I use vim on Linux. Definitely.

@mampf right click on the tray icon - > exit... In config you can disable to autostart

Like many sw on windows

@dontbeevil since when? I had to edit the registry abt 4 months ago to get rid of it.

@mampf mmm since long time ago, as far I can remember ... Inever saw was not possible

Recently my workplace forced Outlook and Skype onto us. To minimise Outlook into tray, I have to use the minimise button. Skype goes into the window bar then. To minimise Skype into the tray, I have to click the close button. If I click the close button in Outlook, it exits. To exit Skype, I have to right-click the tray icon and select exiting there. In Outlook's tray icon context menu there is no exit option, I have to open and then close it. Why consistency if you can make every single option different? Ah, btw, minimising Outlook to the window bar is impossible.

@Fabian try every chat/im app... And than you'll see consistency with Skype... Try any email app and than you'll see consistency with outlook