I think Linux is indeed Userfriendly, there are just Users which aren't Computerfriendly.

i heard one today(u= user lastname, s=support):
u: i cant login. yesterday it worked
s: what is your username
u: lasuse
s: there is no user with this username. what is your lastname?
u: lastname
s: i have only one user, but its username is lastuser.
u: i can still not log in.
s: i will reset your password.
u: i can login, but there is an error.
s: which error?
u: please change your password.
----- end of call ----

@stop Popups, no matter what they display, are a very scary thing for the average user.

@Jilano he was an apprentice for this.job.

@stop Hum. Do I feel an "----- end of apprenticeship -----" too?

his trialperiod is already over. we cant fire him just for this.

in addition...

#iThink

its fair to say: there are people who are interested in computers, therefore like a natural thing they want to understand whats going on on the screen and there are people who are simply not interested in computers, so they wont bother figuring out which couple of words on the screen is the answer to their interaction.

#cli #gui

using command line or graphic ui is another huge variable in the question what does "user friendly" mean

Not always, sometimes Linux doesn't like the hardware in a computer.

@Gerrymandered

And sometimes Linux updates take it to that scary black screen that everyone uses to hack the government.

@RiderExMachina I’ve also had the kernel “update” itself to never boot again

@Gerrymandered

I haven't had that one yet, but I have had times where I'm unable to update at all because the GPG keys changed, so I have to reinstall the OS. Not like that's a super major issue thanks to separate /home partition, but it's still annoying.

You can try to blame the user all you want, but if something is well designed, anyone can use it.

Don’t give a man a car with three steering wheels and a joystick, expect him to use it over a traditional car, and then call him stupid because he can’t use it. That just makes you sound like an asshole.

Exactly!

@RiderExMachina What distro were you using? The only time I've had gpg key problems when updating was when I was using Arch Linux, and it was easy to fix.

@EmberQuill
Either Korora or Antergos. I don't fully remember.

I remember pulling my hairs out while trying to render stuff in 3DSMax3 while listening to Winamp, Windows ME never handled it. A friend of mine let me a CD of some "thing" called Knoppix. I was blown away how much stuff my computer was able to do (besides rendering with Blender and playing music with {don't remember}) at the same time. A couple years later I was using Gentoo with Gnome2 and never been happier with an OS and DE. Then Ubuntu came... yaaaay Linux is more fun.. then Gnome3 came.... "wut is dis?" ... then bye bye Xserver... then pulseaudio.... then X then Y then Z... I started doing linux for a living thanks to that Knoppix CD. But nowadays I can't stand how shitty the DE part has become.

Or maybe is it the current linux kernel 5.x??
I recall having zero hardware problems with linux (56k Conexant modem included), today my browser can't recognize the microphone dual channel and the internal mic is muted. It's just sucking all in linux desktop since many years ago.