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Alright, hear me out…
Circumventing tracking protection is sometimes okay!
Let me explain!
If user explicitly consented to tracking, why can’t I track them? They have tracking protection installed (as they should, and so do I), but when they click “Allow”, I still can’t load analytics. That’s not fair.
I will show the “Decline all” button loud and clear right next to “Allow all” and “Customize”, but I don’t want user’s adblock decide for the user. I won’t load anything until they explicitly allow me to. For all I know, they can have an adblock filter that blocks consent-seeking UI elements/popups (although mine is not a popup, I hate popups), and to me they will appear as unconsenting users. I’m fine with all of that.

But why can’t I track people who agreed that I can track them?
This is why I use my own analytics url that isn’t present in any anti-tracking blocklists.

My tracking does directly benefit both me and my users, and no one else. My users because it makes the product they pay for better at no extra cost, me because when my users are happy, I’m happy too. I want to put emphasis on “no one else” — I use self-hosted things that don’t send anything upstream. I own 100% of the data. I obviously don’t sell it, but I don’t share it either. People who say they don’t sell data all while using google analytics/meta pixel are clowns. Damn right you don’t sell data — you give it away for free. I don’t.

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    You can make the cookie banner as you want. Nobody is stopping you. You can just make it "no 3rd party" and just include whatever you want. But tracking requires almost a big vendor like Facebook. You can't "track" on your own since no one uses your tracking system. But even better, ignore the cookie laws, nobody is controlling or checking it. If someone contacts you about it "whoops".. Don't be naive to apply all their shit. Did you consent to a devRant cookie system? I don't freaking think so. And what about tracking apps. For them it doesn't apply? Ignore this fake law.
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    @retoor I did read devRant's privacy policy. What do you mean by tracking when you say I can't do it without a big company? I want to adhere to that law because I don't want a richer adversary to slap me with a fine I can't pay, all while they make themselves look like heroes.

    I want to be just enough of a pain in the ass to go after that they go after someone else, that's it. A good old bike theft prevention scheme where you make your bike just that much harder to steal than the bike next to yours. You should know that, you're Dutch! Of course, any bike can be stolen, but it will stop opportunistic thieves.
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    may i remind you that tracking block is a separate list and the user usually chooses to use it alongside ad-blocking list
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    @kiki name a few vined companies. Nobody cares. Make a fun banner "I trust you". Click -> cookies enabled. I guess it's all allowed.
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    @retoor google, h&m, amazon, meta, among dozens of smaller companies

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
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    @kiki that's whole gpdr, that's includes way more than a simple cookie statement. Not a valid reference. Look at the freaking reason column.
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    @retoor They can ignore the cookie/GDPR stuff because they aren't European

    @kiki the reason most of those blockers still activate when allow all is clicked is because plenty of places still use the analytics/cookies before they even show you the consent form - and some places incorrectly mark them as "required"
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    @BordedDev I don't think so. My adblocker blocks all tracking by default no matter what. It has no way of knowing whether I consented or not. It's always active.
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    @BordedDev exactlii
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    @kiki Yeah and the reason it does that by default is because of places still using the analytics/cookies before they even show you the consent form or mark them incorrectly as "required"
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