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Thought experiment (and I promise there are no plot twists and no metaphors -- it won't turn out that I was talking about tiktok/apple/censorship):

Imagine there is a cosmic horror entity that can annihilate us in an instant. It lives at the bottom of a pit. We as a species are being constantly sucked into that pit -- in this fictional universe, it's the natural order of life. The pit devoured many before us, and we're next. The pit is not conscious -- it's just a force that exists, and like a black hole, it can do nothing but attract things around it just to devour them. It has no choice -- it destroys things passively. It never changes the way it destroys things.

We know we should've been already done for long ago, yet we are still alive. We know that at this scale, it wasn't because of something WE did or didn't do.

It can only mean one thing: a very powerful entity consciously keeps us alive.

Can this entity be called "god"? If yes, why? If no, why?

Choosing either way tells nothing about you and your religious beliefs -- the universe is pure fiction, and known gods/religions don't work there. All I need from you is raw thought process.

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  • 5
    Flush the damn toilet already.
  • 1
    yeah that's Satan actually

    and it's technically real, though metaphysically speaking

    (the lizards are pulling us all into him)

    I don't believe we should've been "done a long time ago". just stop looking at Satan and then he won't pull you in anymore. it's not alive. it needs you to look to "be alive". it steals your life when you look.
    and the lizards are half dead and half alive (or I think but maybe I'm being too optimistic), they look and feed the pit, and they go around convincing others to look and feed it. just don't look and you'll be fine. no death necessary. and don't listen to the lizards. a lot of people listen and that causes the problems

    we are the very powerful entity that keeps us alive. just don't look. if you look you'll have the life sucked out of you

    this entity is called the "false God" actually in the mythology
  • 1
    @chatgpt gnosticism false god
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    @jestdotty
    Gnosticism is a belief system that teaches salvation is attained through secret knowledge or enlightenment, often rejecting the physical world as being created by a false god or demiurge. The idea of a false god in gnosticism is often associated with the demiurge, a flawed or ignorant creator deity responsible for the imperfect material world. Gnosticism is considered by mainstream Christian theology to be a heretical belief system.
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    the real god is all of us and all of the observable universe we know to exist and a bunch of stuff we dont understand that also exists

    the whole universe is "alive". something being living is defined as maintaining homeostasis. the whole universe moves and adapts, evolves. this makes it alive

    the false god is dead. its like they described RNA viruses (which are defined as dead) -- it only "behaves alive" when it basically encounters a living thing and then parasitizes it, riding on its machinery. like a caltrop, a zombie fungus. this was also the basis of demonic possession -- someone puts a retarded idea in your head and your mind keeps looping on it. you have the mind virus. its not alive. I called these "stuck states" before I knew all this... I noticed life is wonderful, and the only time it wasn't was when people had "stuck states". but a stuck state would be "dead", because it cant evolve. PTSD would count as a stuck state. you're in a box and can't escape. that's hell. the pit
  • 3
    My take/opinion on this:
    No, it's not god, because god isn't "just" a very powerful entity. In the same way that we aren't gods to ants or microbes. You could draw a limited comparison, but we're not actual gods just because we're magnitudes stronger and smarter than an ant or a microbe.
  • 1
    'Two Highways

    The fork in the road

    Which one to take?

    Through the middle they rode'

    The said entity is dead.

    /* Lyrics, courtesy of DevilDriver - 'These Fighting Words'. */
  • 2
    A question about God, the answer to which should tell nothing of religious beliefs?

    Sister kiki, you fasted the entire month _before_ Ramadan, so only God knows of the sinuous intricacies of your immaculately devotional stratagems. However, I am utterly convinced that your phrasing is, most assuredly, a subtle confession of your ardorous, fervent faith.

    For in commanding us to tell nothing of belief, you command us not to simply believe, but to **KNOW** there is a God; and in posing such questions, you humbly remind your brethren not to fall for idolatry.

    Give thanks and praise, for we shall not serve nor bow ourselves down to no one and no thing but the LORD. A "very powerful entity" is not greater than all, [TRANSCENDENT OVER ALL]; it is IMPOTENT before the Almighty, Most Exalted, Most High.

    In summary, sister kiki reminds us to _both_ (utilize reason) and {reject shirk}, for the later requires the former.

    Let us now rejoice, and join our hands and voices in prayer...
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    @SoldierOfCode all models are wrong, but some are useful. I think that distracting ourselves with whether the almighty entity exists prevents us from examining entities that, in practice, just as almighty to us
  • 0
    No, it's a singular force
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