Angular sucks the joy out of programming.

frameworks as a general

@jestdotty Amen.

@jestdotty I've had better experiences with VueJs, however I haven't built super large scale apps with it.

But yes, most frameworks have super opinionated and over-engineered ways of doing basic shit.

I really tried with this Angular project for the past 6 months and I've had enough. My health is suffering because of it.

Busy sending out my CV to recruiters lmao. Angular can go fuck itself into oblivion.

@int32 I don't use any javascript framework at all. Just extending HTMLElement and register as custom component for life. My snek app is backend rendered AND frontend because of this. I have beautiful file management components included with a one liner. <file-manager path=""> or whatever. When you master that, you don't need to do dem frameworks ever again. Only thing i could consider using is vuetify, since it's a quite complete component library. Did built a few things in it, was nice. Vue is indeed a good framework for what it's worth. Written by someone who knew what he's doing. Also got hired by google becaue of it IIRC .

I have been working on angular2+ for more than 7.5 years.

Hit me up with a concept you feel comfortable with.

So we can feel the uncomfortableness together

@jestdotty *JavaScript frameworks? Or perhaps frontend?

.net is pretty decent. But still waiting for any decent front end framework for it. I know WPF, but I'm hesitant to put it on my CV. It's hard work.

@sandeepbalan do you have a drinking problem yet? :D

@jaylord frameworks as opposed to libraries

libraries are tools. even if they're built badly they're not so bad

frameworks... even if built well... they won't go well eventually. then you're stuck with that debt and it's a problem