Let's say *poof* Google is banned from the internet and it's 10years later how would the internet look would it be existing services or do you think new ones would arrive.

Yes

There already are lots of alternatives for everything they do

Except for YouTube (and docs mybe), there are loads of alternatives.

Maps? I use OsmAnd.
Email? I use tutanota.com and my own mail server.
Analytics? Wrote my own more privacy friendly solution.
Youtube? Trying to do that through proxy sites.
Search engines? Duckduckgo and my own searx.me instance.
Drive? Own nextcloud installation.
Dns? Self written DNS server which has built in blocking functionality and proxies the good ones through to opendns.

It's really simple actually.

Oh and, Google banned from the internet: 😍

@linuxxx Let's not forget this one:

Google chat services? I use Signal. No WhatsApp or Google/facebook/microsoft surveillance bullshit.

@linuxxx and the youtube alternatives are existent they just dont work because of youtubes content. If youtube would be gone I think everyone would move to vimeo.

@linuxxx
Im sorry but that sounds anything but simple for the regular user😂

@linuxxx you believe that none of these services store your information or what? Also missing out on having it all in one centralized app

@Codex404 twitch.tv actually has a nice video system too

I wouldn't be surprised if they became the video superpower.

If Google is banned somebody else will just deploy the same things again with the same revenue model. Because it works well for both the company and the users (at least in convenience).

@linuxxx I think Telegram and Wickr are more privacy ensuring apps, you should try;)

The biggest issue is YouTube I guess. There are existing alternatives from technology’s perspective, but not content.

@ArnasL whaha i dont know wickr but Telegram is almost as bad as whatsapp on the privacy area...

@Codex404 please give me an argument;)

@ArnasL ill let @linuxxx handle that, he knows more about privacy and I trust him with those kind of things. Ive read the arguments a few times but keep forgetting it, but the conclusion I do know

I mean there was a situation when Russian goverment tried to get in to one hacker’s telegram account. Telegram refused to give private key access to gov. Then Russia utter ultimatum: if they do not give private keys, they willshut down telegram service in whole Russia. In the end, Monday morning telegram worked as always without any disorders and services like google, facebook was down for 1-2 days. So it’s very intresting to hear linuxxx toughts.

goverment surveillance apps like in china.

@musician The self hosted stuff, sure. The services aren't hard to use :)

@botti Of course they store information.

Some just do it in a more responsible/privacy friendly way than others. I'd rather have those services storing my data than a company like Google.

@ArnasL Telegram not at all, luckily that's not just my opinion but a shared one of the best cryptographers/cyber security people in the world.
As for wickr, haven't looked into it much so hard to say for me :)

@ArnasL
https://gizmodo.com/why-you-should-...
https://crypto.stackexchange.com/qu...
https://csoonline.com/article/...

There are a few big issues:
- It's advertised as a secure and end to end encrypted chat app. You'd expect an encrypted chat app to encrypt everything by default, right? With telegram, you have to manually enable the end to end encryption. People may think their chats are end to end encrypted while they're not by default.
- they developed their own cryptography. What's the first (unwritten) rule of developing a secure messaging app with encryption? Dont. Roll. Your. Own. Crypto.
Next to that, mtproto (telegrams encryption algo) has been developed by telegrams own people. Thats alright if they're cryptographers but they're mathematicians, that's a huge difference.
- the app doesn't save chats encrypted on device.

Enough arguments? :)

@linuxxx Yea, now it seems to me like I was a blind ;D. I always used end-to-end encryption, but that fact about their own cryptography really rises trust issues. Goodbye telegram, welcome back wickr, also give a try on Signal!

If Google was banned from the Internet... 😮
One word: Freedom.
It should be a real thing.

guess what google is banned from our company and its hell i tell u

Why?@monmadmatt

@monmadmatt where do you work and do they hire?

You really think no company would take their place? That’s cute.

@Codex404 planing on committing suicide? lol company is at japan but we are based here in the Philippines