Isn't it incredibly frustrating when they ask you to be proficient at things you haven't even worked with? I think this has got to be one of the most frustrating things as a developer, as I prefer to know and be skilled with things up front and not be dumped some tech onto me and 'here, figure it out'.

Of course, for those of us who have the deep fundamental skills in their fingertips, this isn't such a problem, and that's where I want to get.

I like being thrown in

theoretical doesn't do it for me

I got to get my hands dirty to get any expertise. I think it's ok to expect expertise as well, because it sure beats telling someone "you can't hack it". it offers hope and you are allowed to actually engage until expertise. whereas someone just telling you no means they bar you from developing said expertise... well how do you expect me to get good at it then?! I guess nobody would be! it's a self-sabotaging mindset

> 'Of course, for those of us who have the deep fundamental skills in their fingertips, this isn't such a problem, and that's where I want to get.'

Precisely.

@jestdotty gladiatorrrr

I prefer theoretical + practice. Engage until expertise is not what I found out, but I was in consulting, so that's a different story. I never got enough time for anything - always splintered, always quick wins that amounted to nothing.

I do like theoretical practical (aka not the math, but I do enjoy optimising stuff theoritically with trees and SIMD and such)

But yeah, it's the non-coders which tend not to understand

Yeah the trick is to work with it first. Do a side project or something

On the other hand, we made a competency matrix at work where everyone was supposed to log what they were familiar with in a predetermined long list of languages and libraries and we got scored on it, which is a hilarious management-mandated dick measuring contest.

Anyway, I got like 10x as much as everyone else because I like fucking around with tools. My only low scored category was a big fat zero in AI tools.

Can you believe that there are people with 5 years of experience who never used Python for anything?

@lorentz I'd still be avoiding it if I wasn't forced to by my current job ;P

@BordedDev I mean me too, but that's because I tried it to see what all the ruckus was about and came away with a detailed list of complaints. I don't bitch about anything I can't reason against.

The one thing python is good for is calling into high quality libraries that don't have bindings for better languages.

@lorentz Agreed

1. It was made by a Dutch

2. It uses whitespace

3. It was made by a Dutch

;P

Though I have yet to find a replacement for fastapi