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RPi 4 is hard to get your hands on it seems.

Really debating buying it though, 4 GB is enticing, but I just don't see a place for it. I have a surplus of machines which are much more powerful and accessible (Display ports - not mini HDMI)

And let's not forget the sub-2GHz clock speed. My desktop goes to 5, and my server isn't far behind. And my laptop isn't far behind that. And my other laptop isn't far behind that. But this new Pi would be far far behind that.

Not to mention the ARM architecture. There have been leaps and bounds made since the Pi first came out in terms of support for ARM (Most certainly fueled by the Android craze) but it still isn't x64, is it?

If I were 13 again and I didn't have all of the toys that I do now, I would be elated at the launch of the Pi 4. But as it stands, I don't see a use for it. Maybe nostalgia.

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  • 2
    Clockspeed isn't all that relevant, the Pi 4 CPU has a deeper pipeline (compared to Pi3) (15 stages I think?) and out of order execution, plus A72. Also, not comparable to other architectures directly.
  • 4
    How many watts do your surplus machines draw and compare it to a raspi?
  • 2
    I never found good use for an RPI (for me of course and NOT the idea itself), but I like improvements they are including
  • 1
    @heyheni enough to not need to use an SD card as a hard drive.
  • 1
    @AlgoRythm but less power consumption is better 😏
  • 3
    @heyheni your comment: *still loading due to SD card bandwidth*
  • 1
    If you're living on £5 of electricity per week, this thing is for you.
  • 1
    i am srsly considering upgrading my current Pi3 with the 4. Right now i am running a small Nextcloud Instance, some other (mostly static) content for my "intranet" and some other very small services on the thing.

    The Performance of the nextcloud close to the useable range but sometimes bad. I am looking since month for a proper homeserver but energy is quite expensive in germoney, and getting a proper Server that could server as NAS+Computing Power is hard to get by. So i probably stick to the RaPi Solution, and for 60 € euro i could do a lot instead of dropping apparently 500 to 1000 € on the "real" solution.
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    @BurnoutDV maybe a ZOTAC mini computer could also be useful and more importantly more powerful.
    https://zotac.com/product/mini_pcs/...
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    @heyheni looks basically like a NUC. Its a nuc right?

    I am looking for this already for quite some time. What i wish for is:

    ECC Ram Support

    4 SATA Ports (or SAS but that might become expensive)

    Idle Power Consumption not higher than 15 watt.

    Enough computing Power to power my home stuff and ovpn.

    There is this ITX Board (not avaible anymore) https://alternate.de/html/product/...

    but i am soooo unsure about building my own thing. Just too many variables :/
  • 1
    Funny, just the other day I contemplated buying a Raspberry compute module 3 to build something portable. But the low amount of RAM turned me away. Gonna wait for the 4 then. 😂
  • 0
    @Haxk20 why though, x86 is a horrendous architecture, especially for low power consumption based devices.
  • 1
    @irene

    Main point of raspberry pi is price.

    Second is physical size.

    Third, maybe, is power consumption.
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    @AlgoRythm with higher power draw you'd need better electronics and much better cooling.
    Not to mention a fancier board. And they'd probably have to up the buses too to make the increased performance worthwhile. Plus it wouldn't run from a USB connection or equivalent power line, which is a major selling point. Also, it'd be useless for battery operated projects because batteries would discharge faster and they may not be able to supply enough power unless you get expensive ones. Plus, it'd probably be more expensive to boot. So...

    Point is, power draw directly influences all considerations in a small board, making it a primary factor.
  • 0
    the power consumption and small size are the main draws. I'd love to get an RPi-like x86 board but they're all way too much for me to afford. Plus they cost more and some REQUIRE fans so they'd be noisy.
  • 0
    The pi isn’t meant to replace your desktop or server, it shouldn’t be compared to them. There’s tons of things you can do with the pi, you just have to figure out what works best for you
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    @irene I don’t follow
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    @irene if that’s your raspberry pi dream hell yeah
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    @irene i use mine as a small file server, a web server, and as a secondary computer for testing socket projects
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