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Did you guys' stubborness get you anywhere? Did it ever help you along the way? Did you ever discover new things because you wanted to do things your own way?

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    Sort of. In my professional life (which dR is not) I'm rarely stubborn. One of such examples is me refusing to work paid/unpaid OT if I have other (personal) plans. I have been CRYSTAL clear and made a few very obvious statements, even when my manager's manager's manager was calling me directly to my personal # asking to work on Saturday.

    A few such cases and folks are very aware that if they need me to be available on my free time they should make arrangements with me in advance. Haven't had any surprise calls on weekends ever since :)

    Another example: being stubborn and refusing to drop the idea of building automation scripts, which I was told would be a waste of time and resources and would become obsolete as the product will be migrated very soon. 5 months passed by, my scripts are still in use and saving a few *days* of manual work *each week*, migrations got stuck due to poor app performance and I am receiving nothing but positive feedbacks from both upper mgmt and coleagues.
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    I'm an INTJ.

    When I have a project, I think about it almost exclusively until I have a fully-thought-out solution that I've analyzed from every angle, picked apart, redesigned several times, tested, tweaked, etc. I gladly listen to suggestions and differing perspectives, analyze them for merit, and incorporate them into my plans if they help. If they don't, I discard them.

    When I want to do things "my own way," it's often because I've done all of this and determined that it's the best approach and solution for the given problem. I appear stubborn to e.g. management because I often refuse to budge on my plans, especially when given input/suggestions/orders that haven't been given much, if any thought. Certainly less mental effort and scrutiny than I've put into mine.

    I've seen INTJs with projects described as tanks mercilessly and unemotionally rolling over everything in their path. It's not because I don't care, it's because everything else is irrelevant, and I get tired of repeatedly explaining myself to people who refuse to listen or think.

    So to answer your question: this is the best way for me to approach projects, but it certainly doesn't make anyone like me. Especially not management.
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    @Root what's INTJ ?
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    @netikras A Myers-Briggs personality type.
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    @Root i can relate, INTJ here too.
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    My stubborness on perfection never got me anywhere considering I still haven't finished one single real project
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    Stubbornness is the enemy of success.
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