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my problem with gaming in linux is not really inherent to linux.

my problem is that there are no linux game torrents.

and torrenting for me is a way to know if I'll be playing a certain game for a while, and eventually buy it.

I can watch all the trailers in the world for a game, but I truly make up my mind after the first few hours of direct playtime.

so I'm not interested in spending money on a game that I might like because it looked nice on the trailer only to find out I hate playing it.

the problem with torrents is that once users get the game, and the game works, they're probably like
"why bother buying it? the game works right? why risk losing the progress i achieved so far by moving save files?"

on top of that on linux, you need to check protondb to see how compatible the game you found is, so an extra layer of difficulty.

I guess I would like to have legal demo versions of games, but I see very little devs doing that so maybe that commercial model failed? I don't know really.

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  • 3
    (there's also the users that torrent with the purpose of not paying a single dime, ofc)
  • 8
    Can't you just buy them on Steam and get a refund if they suck? I don't play games anymore, but I heard this is possible.

    At least if you really want to spend money on a game ;)
  • 6
    @sboesch "I'll buy the game later" biggest lie ever ;)
  • 2
    You can use Proton from the command line to run most cracks.
    ;)
  • 0
    Also the fact that 90% of games aren't supported on Linux
  • 0
    Have you tried running non-Linux games in Wine?
  • 1
    @shoop are you sure? I have the impression that it's not as bad, but I can't find any good measurement.
  • 0
    @spaulder well yes, that's what proton is in a way...
  • 1
    @jesustricks there hasn't been a single respectable AAA title that runs well or even runs on Linux. Big example: Minecraft. On Windows I could squeeze out ~100 fps on high to max graphics. And on a Linux machine, in 720p and lowest graphics there is barely 35
  • 2
    Bollocks. The old torrent because there aren't any demos argument. You're a thief. That's okay. Well, not legally, but you can be a good person somewhere else. Just stop the bloody rationalisation.
  • 0
    @shoop Proton adds a good chunk of overhead ... I can run Squad on any graphics level at FHD 1080 on a notebook with i5 and GTX 1050 while my desktop with i7 and GTX 670 will barely run it on HD 720 with the lowest possible settings (runs fine on FDH 1080 with medium settings when running in Win10).
  • 1
    @shoop I have no idea why it isn't working for you, but I actually get more FPS on Linux than on Windows. ^^
    Did you have an up-to-date driver installed?
  • 0
    @PrivateGER yeah, an up to date nvidia 920mx driver is doing good
  • 1
    You can ask for steam refund if you played less than 2 hours.
    2 hours seems like a good amount to try the game
  • 0
    @sboesch @NoToJavaScript thank you guys for the idea, I will definitely try the refund idea
  • 1
    @TheCommoner282 if a simpleton like you considers me a thief, then I'll wear that title proudly.
  • 1
    @jesustricks is that a general reaction to the opinions of simpletons? Do you look up to them? Or am I special?
  • 1
    @TheCommoner282 You really need to stop seeing things so entirely black and white. Not everyone that uses torrents is a thief.
    Find me a demo of any modern game, for example Subnautica, that I can use to make sure it runs on my PC. You can't, and that's the exact problem.
  • 0
    @PrivateGER There are demos. It's called the steam 2 hour refund policy.
  • 0
    @PrivateGER That is the demo argument again. The lack of a demo is regrettable, but does not automatically change anything about the torrent usage. Let me stress again, I have nothing against using torrents to pirate games. I really just don't like the moralising. This vain attempt to justify it. The reality is that at that moment when you want to have it you are unwilling to pay for it.
  • 0
    @AntiElephant Nope. I had enough cases of Steam rejecting my refund requests randomly. I'm not doing that. It's not a good system for testing a game.
  • 0
    I still use torrents, but for movie/tv shows.
    I have Netflix and amazon prime (Via friend’s account). I never use them. It is faster for me to download or stream torrent directly (ty Soda player)
  • 0
    @TheCommoner282 In my opinion the immoral thing isn't torrenting, or breaking the law. There are terrific laws, laws that are best dealt with by breaking them. No. The immoral thing is enjoying a game without supporting the developer. And, to reverse it, an equally bad thing is making people pay for a game which they don't enjoy, or which they can't even run at all.
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    @Lor-inc as long as there is no food shortage, it is not immoral to sell a single apple for a thousand dollars. Your argument is rubbish. They inform you about the minimum required specs before. But actually whether the other side is moral does not concern my argument at all.

    Torrenting a video game is fine. Low risk crime if you have a vpn. But claiming it is a good moral act is bollocks. This need to justify every single act one performs is annoying. Torrenting films or games is hedonistic in nature and that's perfectly alright. Personally, hedonism is motivation for most of my acts.
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